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Старый 25.07.2011, 05:41 Язык оригинала: Русский       #41
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Ika-Ika, Cezanne was not a Jew.
Somewhere I read, just forgot where.



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Старый 25.07.2011, 05:47 Язык оригинала: Русский       #42
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Family history of Cezanne:

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Cézanne left the small town of Cesena (Cezana), now belonging to
Western Piedmont, and so until recently it was thought that they were
purely Italian origin. However, in the 17th century, as far as possible
judge by name, place was inhabited by families of French roots, and only in
1713 Treaty of Utrecht on the eastern slopes of the valley Bryankonne
(Brianconnais) were traded on the French Valley Barselonnet. Town
 Cezanne-Cesena thus became Italian. Cezanne family at the time
already moved (around 1650) in Besancon, that way for fifteen miles on
tract. Parish registers reported cases of shoe wizard Blaise Cezanne,
which of the two women had five or six children. Prior to 1700, one of the
branches of the family was still farther to the west - in Aix.
There, in the parish of Saint-Madeleine in August 1702 was born Jacques-Joseph, son of Denis
 Cezanne and Catherine Margrit. Denis, perhaps the eldest son Blaise. The third son,
Andre, who was born in April 1712, was perruquier - manufacturer
wigs or the barber, and that probably both. His wife, Marie Bugarel
gave birth to several children, one of whom, born November 14, 1756
, was Tama-François-Xavier Cezanne, a tailor. He married Rose and Rebyuffa
moved to the town of Saint-Zacharie, that fifteen miles he Aix. His son
Louis-Auguste was the father of the artist.
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In this pedigree is remarkable that Paul came from among the many
trudivshisya craftsmen from generation to generation engaged in manual labor.
Also suggests that in moving the family (alluding to the fact that
it felt like a stranger in a Provencal environment), you can catch something from
nezatihnuvshey family tradition, which was deeply hidden in the form
nature of the field.
Louis-Auguste Cezanne was the only one who rose above the low-
life of an ordinary artisan. Born July 28, 1798, he was a sickly
child, but grew up as a make up for slow start and a stronger
active than normal children. In adulthood he was a hard,
clean-shaven face with a high forehead, thinning hair and deep creases between
bushy eyebrows, creating a feeling of firmness and insightful
irony.
In the second ten, he realized that Saint-Zacharie - this is not a place for man
intended to go his own way in the world. He went back to the family footsteps and
settled in Aix, one of the main centers for the production of felt hats.
Very cleverly he figured to go to Paris in 1821, where he stayed for about
three or four years, first as a simple worker in the master-Hatter, then
merchant. Returning to Aix in 1825, he founded the shop with Martin,
Hatter, and about 1845 the firm was liquidated. Louis-Auguste couple of years
continued his own hat craft, after which he decided on a bold
step - to become a banker in the revolutionary 1848.
Even in a time when he was involved in their hats, Louis-Auguste met one
a young man, Louis Aubert, and perhaps some time in his impolzoval
his new business. Sister, Anna, Louis-Elisabeth Honorine, high comely
woman, Louis-Auguste bowed to ensure that live with him. Ober was EXCO
artisans within a few generations. Elizabeth was born in 24
September 1814, her father was a carpenter, furniture makers, and his mother was born Gerard
from Marseille. This family seems to be a romantic relationship was partly
maintaining the links with Napoleon, General Gerard, who fulfilled their
mission usmerenii island of San Domingo, West Indies, returned, as they say, with
Negro. The facts, however, claim otherwise - mother Elizabeth was born in 1779
in the family of an employee on the silver handicrafts, so that the tradition should be
Yet only an idle fantasy.
Before Cezanne were married January 29, 1844, Elizabeth gave birth to Louis-
Auguste Paul and Mary. In 1854 she gave birth to second daughter, Rose. Paul was born
in the morning January 19, 1839 at the Opera house on the street, 28.



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Старый 25.07.2011, 06:08 Язык оригинала: Русский       #43
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What to Levitan, then, of course, dear artist, a great colorist, but he did build a picture could not.

Guriev, Igor, I for Levitan, you right right now, severely bitten >



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Старый 25.07.2011, 06:32 Язык оригинала: Русский       #44
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Somewhere I read, just forgot where .
I read that Malevich - a Jew. >

Where does this ignorant nonsense, which is distributed via the Internet at lightning speed , sometimes you can understand . As in the case of Malevich. This question has already arisen in the forum topic : «" Black Square "by Kazimir Malevich : who feels like looking at this picture" .



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Старый 25.07.2011, 09:00 Язык оригинала: Русский       #45
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Ika-Ika, Cezanne was not a Jew.
The mention of this I have read here in this book.
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Старый 25.07.2011, 11:25 Язык оригинала: Русский       #46
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Сообщение от zarajara; 1719513"
"Grand Master", "a major figure in the art" and "an artist that I like" - not always the same. Objectivity in assessments is not possible, but it should at least try.
Come on you ... >
Participant - an amateur artist, amateur can understand, for him, as for pervokurstnika huduchilischa, riding skills achievements are to draw the grass green and sky blue, "as live". The level of understanding of art of Nikita Khrushchev: "Look better, what a self-portrait painted Laktionov. If you take the cardboard, cut a hole in it and make a portrait Laktionova what you see? Looks like a person. And the same hole to attach to your portrait, which will ? Women have to forgive me - ass. "
This and this
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Brodsky Laktionov much better.
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And these passages are clear:
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sad example, and attempts to crash some L. Freud to start painting again confirms it.
Participant in their understanding of contemporary art (and there "modern" art, postwar) referred to "surovostilnikah", after visiting four exhibitions of these authors. There's only top - Viktor Ivanov, Popkov, Obrosov and Ossowski, alas. With more advanced sokurstniki-Muscovites have explained to those exhibitions boy near as they could, then "otpechatolos" for life. Next - no, no, a kind of "complex Shukshin," but in iso.

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The right of the artist (as nehudozhnika) to speak about any works it is not disputed, but not in "dead artist."
 And this is such a chic "à la postmodernizm": potsinichnie, poepatazhnie. >
"Do you like Lucien Freud? And I say that it is complete shit, and do not talk to me of Modigliani and Chagall. This is - not painters, but among the Jews and not artists. And the sad example of a disaster-attempts of some L. Freud's start painting again confirms this. What? world admires? World - lamb, I, I, I" and only [SIZE=4"]I[/SIZE] understand the art! Laktionov - genius, Bakst - could not draw! "
 > > >



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but not in "dead artist."
I would like to add: "and not in style .."

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I read that Malevich - Jew.


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Ika-Ika, Cezanne was not a Jew.
Comrades, who will explain something to me, what's the difference: "The Jew-Gentile"?

Well then do not understand ...

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Igor Guriev, I for Levitan, you right right now, severely bitten
like!
join the herd of!

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Shukshin complex ",
What is it?
"Why do not you know?"
(C)

(And not in Google ...)




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Comrades, who will explain something to me , what's the difference : "The Jew - Gentile "?
Well then do not understand ...

What do you mean , what's the difference ? For people studying the artist's work and the less significant things are important. Family of the artist , social status, place of residence, nationality , social circle of the artist - all these and more need to know for those who study art . Your perplexity , I do not understand. Strange question !



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What do you mean , what's the difference ? For people studying the artist's work and the less significant things are important. Family of the artist , social status, place of residence, nationality , social circle of the artist - all these and more need to know for those who study art . Your perplexity , I do not understand. Strange question !
Tyutchev, what's the difference membership ( or non ) to the Jewish Chagall , Levitan , Cezanne, Malevich to the artist's death on the theme of Lucien Freud?
( This is not just " offtopic ", and " offtopic offtopic oftopa on ")



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Tyutchev, what's the difference membership (or non) to the Jewish Chagall, Levitan, Cezanne, Malevich to the artist's death on the theme of Lucien Freud?
(This is not just "offtopic", and "offtopic offtopic oftopa on")
This issue arose during discussion. You have the opportunity to see how it developed. And what do you think should be the subject of the artist's death, the obituaries? That may be relevant to the topic about the artist, than talk about the artists? I suggest you calm down and write about what interested you. Write, for example, about why you like or dislike work by Lucian Freud. I am interested in opinions about the artist's works. It does not matter with which the "+" or "-" the main thing that it was your personal opinion. Based on understanding of the artist. Impressions would also be interesting.

That is so far the only message on the work of Lucian Freud, noteworthy, from the information in this topic:

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Santa, news of the death - it's always news of the death ...
Since the deceased was a public figure of the modern world, and even received all in life, I suppose, the famous "or anything ..." it is spread not. To me, his nudes impasto (smothered in coloring) somehow always seemed to me coarse and very decorative with respect to the background. I thought that there was little harmony. Maybe he was not inside her. But in any case, I do not lift up his nudes ... He was a contemporary artist to express the sense, especially for his age, lack of interest in the interest of the viewer. It is very readable. And, in moderation, but pathological. I've come to pathology, such as ... not really.
Rest in peace, Lucien Freud ...
I do not agree with artist, but it is an interesting text. The author thought before you write.




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