Prospect of a new online gallery or auction

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от Aquarius; 2486141"

to the site to take a picture with an inadequate price will not .

Pictures will give the condition that they will be sold. No one would wait three years . It is a vicious circle: the picture will not be given until the spin up area - site does not spin up without the normal pictures.
The solution?

[Aquarius]

Сообщение от Konstantin

Pictures will give the condition that they will be sold. No one would wait three years. It is a vicious circle: the picture will not be given until the spin up area - site does not spin up without the normal pictures.
Exit?

Like this seems to solve the "chicken and egg" problem in the IT-environment, called a "network effect" :

1. Paintings neraskruchennyh but talented artists (I hope there is such a small Russian soil?) Will be enough to attract through personal correspondence, dating and a story about the project.

2. Some of the more status you can draw pictures of the gallery owners, the real picture which can not accommodate everyone, again - through personal presentation and seeking mutually beneficial cooperation schemes

3. Certain layers of work you can try to get at your own risk (in this case, the project must already provide search of investors, whose funds and will be spent on the formation of the first collection for resale).

If you run this heavy flywheel, it should continue to spin on its own, this is the beauty of the project, which could cause the network effect ...

The question is, how possible natural growth, in which the number of arrivals of interesting works well correlated with an increase in customer base. If the picture is too much - commercial return for a particular artist will be uninteresting, if there will be too few - buyers will be disappointed in the space of choice. And the system will go racing >

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от Aquarius; 2486211"

neraskruchennyh but talented artists

Сообщение от Aquarius; 2486211"

Part of a status of paintings

It is no secret the names and call the two?
Recently had correspondence with people collaborating with artists whose names are on everyone's lips . My and evaluated prices (pardon the tautology) differed significantly. What I think will not be able to sell for 100 and 000 rubles. they believed could not be less than 300 000 rubles. And this despite the fact that the price they called me much lower than that voiced by the artists themselves.
So how should you do?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Aquarius

why do you refuse to Russia in a similar, albeit in 5-10 years?

" In 5-10 years "?
>

Comrade, we would only night stand yes day hold (c).
Which five, let alone 10 years, you say - do not know that a year and a half will be in Russia.

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2486251"

is not known that a year and a half will be in Russia .

Why discourage people from venturing a new project, based on the fact that there were no clear prospect of development . We do not understand , and they can understand. Life is certainly not the end. So let's stick to the topic .

I can only add that discussing a new project with a company engaged in investments in securities. Heard from them that the investment for more than three years, customers are not talking at all. This is the main problem of the country . Private equity does not think in terms of five years and beyond . Alas.
Another of the opera on Friday on radio station " Mayak" in the transfer that usually leads Mikhail Leontyev and Mikhail Yuriev. So a request to advise the listener what he ( Mikhail Yuriev ) invests in Russia, he suddenly said, in anything. He is now investing in the construction of the plant in the U.S. state of Texas.
That's - hello patriots.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Konstantin; 2486271"

Why discourage people from venturing a new project

I am not discouraged, and so this project will be.

Сообщение от Konstantin; 2486271"

We do not understand , and they can understand

They only seem to understand.

Сообщение от Konstantin; 2486271"

Life is certainly not the end.

Do not stop, but in the art of living space will not.
This is my opinion , I stress .

[Aquarius]

Сообщение от Konstantin

It's no secret, and to name the two?
Recently had correspondence with people collaborating with artists whose names are on everyone's lips. My and evaluated prices (pardon the tautology) differed significantly. What I think will not be able to sell for 100 and 000 rubles. they believed could not be less than 300 000 rubles. And this despite the fact that the price they called me much lower than that voiced by the artists themselves.
So what are we to?

Constantine, to my great regret (or fortunately) - I am new to the art market, I am a person of IT. Therefore, specific names of artists or gallery name I will not mention.

The problem with fundamentally different views on the price and value of the paintings is very characteristic of our art market (according to the discussions in the forum, which I now learn), and without thinking you can try to scroll through one of two options (assuming that your taste is quite objective, as well as and orientation to the realities of the market and pricing):

- Does not work with "inadequate", seriously invest in finding the right artists /gallery owners. It will be more difficult, but in the long run is much more effective to work with in that it gives the market here and now.

- Set a number of works with an inadequate indicator of price /performance and see the result. If these works are "stuck" on the site, while the rest are sold well - one more visit to the "disproportionate" to the numbers on their hands. Either they will think, or in their furnace. There is another option - most of these unrealistic price tags are gone, well, it's just a dream :-) artists, gallery owners, and your gallery will be a very good broth.

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Added after 10 minutes
" In 5-10 years "? >
Comrade, we would only night stand yes day hold (c). Which five, let alone 10 years, you say - do not know that a year and a half will be in Russia.

In front of me examples (including friends) that are consistently 10 consecutive years invested in your business or career, and today's results are quite impressive. Even more impressive achievements of those who began to batter the same topic 15 years ago ...

So do not share your uncertainty about 5-10 years, especially since my question is tied not only to Russia, but is more global >

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

I suspect that you did not happen in New York or Munich, and about Moscow you have a very superficial knowledge: said in Moscow chickens milk (c). >

Did not happen in New York or in Munich, however, use the product every day American /European companies and startups, listen to Western music, watch mostly Western films, the situation in a hurry to possess Ikeja and so on.

According to the familiar art, here in the Urals in recent years, interest in art has grown significantly. Moscow may still milking chickens ;-) Though not notice I'm in the capital itself, and friends who have settled in the rubber and did not count.

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от Aquarius

I am new to the art market, I am a person of IT

I do not advise when to get involved in the case.


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[Aquarius]

Сообщение от Konstantin

Why discourage people from venturing a new project, based on the fact that there were no clear prospect of development. We do not understand, and they can understand. Life is certainly not the end. So let's stick to the topic.

Cyril, in general, the rights, if possible - it is necessary to leave the country and invest in something more interesting. China, for example. Milner (MAIL.RU GROUP) do just that - closes all interests in Russia and looks only to the U.S. /China now.

Russia - shallow for this predatory fish, no question >

Сообщение от Konstantin

Another of the opera on Friday on radio station "Mayak" in the transfer that usually leads Mikhail Leontyev and Mikhail Yuriev. So a request to advise the listener what he (Mikhail Yuriev) invests in Russia, he suddenly said, in anything. He is now investing in the construction of the plant in the U.S. state of Texas.
That's - hello patriots.

Investors with money and global outlook - it is quite another story. They have the ability to search and find for themselves a very interesting asset class.

I simple Soviet man, I can not invest in any plant in Texas, or in the business of Chinese art galleries - for this, I have no money, no brains appropriate.

My opinion is more or less successful business - let's say, $ 1 million annual turnover and growth prospects for at least 10 years.

If you start from an average cost of $ 2,000 paintings - is selling about 500 films a year, or about 40 per month.

Although a more honest look at the margins here, with 30%commission on sales - get should go to the level of sales in the 150 paintings /prints per month. Or rise in the more expensive segment exclusive.

If this is outrageous numbers, then, alas - our art market is really in the infancy ...

[Sergey11]

I think that about 500 films a year for $ 2tys is fantastic in our market