Go to fight some old - Страница 12 - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Кирилл Сызранский · 27.07.2009, 16:03

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in the halls devoted to the art of the twentieth century ...

Address already know.

Buscador · 27.07.2009, 16:07

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If you communicate with artists, gallery owner and dealer, then you, the word "pictures" in relation to the pictures should not be surprising. So many people say, if not all. A sort of professional slang, really sorry ...

And, as an amateur a professional tell you that the so-called artists of their work, but certainly not the work of the great masters ...

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Address already know.

I hope for good people ...

Тютчев · 27.07.2009, 16:23

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I hope for good people ...

Very positive setting.

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Hm-ah-ah-ah! Cool! That is covered. I wanted to say carefully concealed. That is cool covered! No, rather hidden. Or better skrali? That is closed. In general, hushed up.
Well, all right. This is not drma.
Let it be sun!
Pst will always be a mom!: D

Маруся · 27.07.2009, 17:36

Probably not worth a newcomer to climb "in the battle with the old one, but I still try:

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A "fake Shishkin" of works by the Düsseldorf school doing just for professionals such as you, who believe in the tale of the secondary and the mediocrity of Russian art. What you want is what you get. (Early Shishkin really shows a clear influence dyusseldorftsev, which is quite natural. Next is the mighty Russian talent flourishes in all power and overshadows the Germans. Look, compare, and you will understand what I mean.)

Before drawing such conclusions is probably worth reading the earlier posts in which LCR wrote something like: ... as you can after Malevich, Rodchenko, Tatlin to "Socialist realism" ...

I will not quote LCR, and quote Lentulova, I hope that for you it is the authority: "When in France was impressionism, we - the Wanderers, and the first, of course, higher than the second."
Here, then, in my opinion, is that body of water that separates the Russian art as a secondary, imitative (even if carried to its highest level, overcomes the teachers) of Russian art innovation, which gave a huge boost to the entire world of art. Check out Camilla Gray, she wrote that all the new trends in art of the second half of XX century. turns out, were invented by Russian avant-garde in the 1910-1920-ies.

Will your post number 103, but I'd shot, because quotation LCR, which you mention, in other words expresses your same idea, confirmed by a quote from Kandinsky. Only you mention it in contrast. "Shea butter" is obtained. In general, the message is pretty rough, in my opinion.

Тютчев · 27.07.2009, 17:57

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In general, the message is pretty rough, in my opinion.

      This post is no more brutal than positions LSR, in which it passes to the identity and clearly offends forumchan. I did not insult anyone. This style. And then, such gross errors and the apparent Russophobic, just need an answer.
   With uvzheniem Tjutchev.

Маруся · 27.07.2009, 18:10

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This style. And then such gross errors, and the apparent Russophobic, just need an answer.

Sometimes I just did not find errors, and Russophobic that-Well, I for "healthy Russophobic." I do not like when the Russian art indiscriminately pushed into last place in the world history of art (which, incidentally, does not apply to LCR), but I have a healthy, ie, relying on the facts to it. As for style, then propose to replace him on the constructive.

Тютчев · 27.07.2009, 18:11

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... because the quotation LCR, which you mention, in other words expresses your same idea, confirmed by a quote from Kandinsky. Only you mention it in contrast. "Shea butter" is obtained.

Here I am with you I can not agree. Kandinsky said just about the primacy of national for art, that is, first national and then (through this) to all mankind. That's what happens in real life, because this is due to human nature and the surrounding (human) world.

Маруся · 27.07.2009, 18:20

I see no contradiction, or you are not satisfied with the sequence ...
But as we know, from the relocation of sum is not changing.

Евгений · 27.07.2009, 18:20

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I do not like when the Russian art indiscriminately pushed into last place in the world history of art

I agree with you, but not only Russian, but Soviet ..

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does not apply to the LCR

I do not agree with you, but respecting Lian, without comment.

Тютчев · 27.07.2009, 18:21

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With respect to style, then propose to change it to meaningful.

Thanks for the offer, but unfortunately, I can not use it, because the style can not be constructive.

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