Старый 26.07.2009, 16:33 Язык оригинала: Русский       #101
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Listen, you are there what paints a draw? A?
Not toxic? Rastvorteli /thinners normal?
I have this to what you are asking such questions, I'm at a loss ...
Here's looking at the photo images, mate with her, could not rewrite in the author's view, the subject of further reading? I do not know ... : D
Implication understood!



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Старый 26.07.2009, 16:35 Язык оригинала: Русский       #102
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They said that recently their regional government for voting question, do we need a culture of people (makes it possible for the crisis, you know?)? So, imagine a majority of 2 votes, these representatives of the people have decided, despite the crisis, culture, and not to cancel the exhibition to continue to disburse. And you say - the people!
Dear LCR, someone very wise once said that history repeats itself twice: once as tragedy, and the other - as farce. Your example is forced to recall the story of 20-ies, described E. Kovtun, in my opinion, word for word:

Chapter "Neotkryvshayasya vysavka" from the book of Paul E. Kovtun Filnove:

In 1929, the Russian Museum Filonov offered to arrange a personal exhibition. Employee of the museum, VN Anikeeva written an article, a catalog is still not lost its value accurately document issued during the life of the artist. But soon developed complications. There were forces that were actively hinder the opening of the exhibition. Catalog remade: the entry Anikeeva replaced by Article famous art critic SK Isakov, challenging work Filonov.
Opponents of the exhibition sought to rely on the opinion of workers invited to the closed discussions exposure. One of these views was held on Dec. 30, 1929. It was conducted by SK Isakov. PN Filonov sat in the presidium. Present at the NN Punin, as students remembered the artist was clearly not at ease.
In his opening remarks Isakov said that on the issue - to open an exhibition or not - decided to "appeal to working-class audience in order to bring the issue to the public." But there was a hitch: all speakers were working for the opening of the exhibition. In the two reviews:
T. Fadeev (Red nailer) - "The exhibition should be open, widely known, the masses, as well as art Filonova revolutionary, is the art of the future".
T. Shalygin (production worker - tipogr. Employees of.) - "Filonov - a huge treasury of thought. This unit can not be ignored. The workers themselves will be able to decipher the art Filonov. They should demand that the exhibition was open.
A whole year hanging in the halls of the museum's paintings Filonov was controversy in the press. Wrote and for and against ...
But the show never opened.



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Старый 27.07.2009, 05:09 Язык оригинала: Русский       #103
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The greatness of the artist is not determined by its national roots, and the assimilation of the entire world of art and the subsequent self-seeking - Russian avant-garde early XX century is enough to demonstrate this.
        LCR, as well you know the Russian avant-garde! And what Larionov, Goncharova, Petrov - Vodkin, Kandinsky, Malevich, and so on and so forth. The entire Russian avant-garde grew at the national Russian art. Kandinsky, for example, believed that art should "withdraw from the national to the universal." You are not ready! Sit deuce! No, perhaps, count! Up to what level is lowered forum, if the guru is saying! I'm shocked! There is adequate people? Where are you? Auuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu ...


"We strive to East and draw attention to the national art <...> We protest against the slavish subordination to the West, returns to us our own forms in the eastern and vulgarization of the form and all the leveling. Mikhail Larionov. Preface //Catalog of the exhibition of paintings by artists of "Target". M., 1913.


"In search of leaders of Russian avant-garde pedigree focused on ancient Russian folk art and native culture, seeing in them the basis and guarantee of their own identity. Ancient icons, vulgar splints, painting vyvesochnikov and unknown painters, decorative painting household items were the subject of their scrutiny. Proper same creativity Larionov, Goncharova, Malevich, Kandinsky, in part fueled by these sources, radically different from the stylization of trends in the work of Russian artists of previous generations, also draws its inspiration from the treasures of national culture (meaning master, grouped around Abramtsevo, Talashkino and other centers revival of folk crafts). Several anticipating the presentation, stressing that the two similar stage in his address to the national folk art - stylization and organically-fiction - was destined to survive and a young Jewish artists, but not consistently, but at the same time.
National Revival, which began in the environment of Russian Jewry in the late XIX century, in turn, could not affect the work of artists and innovators of Jewish origin. Research ethnographic expeditions S.A.An-sky found in the thick of the national life of real roots, these age-old traditions of national art. Young Jewish masters enthusiastically opened their own, nepridumannoe heritage. His collection and study painted a next stage in the creative evolution of the Jewish avant-garde. Chronologically, this stage is in the middle of the 1910-ies, the bogeyman of her was the establishment of "communication time", the comprehension of a national framework for the fine arts. Natan Altman, Lazar Lissitzky, Issachar Ryback, as well as "constant" and the Russian avant-garde, and modern European and Jewish art - Marc Chagall - define the shape of this segment "
Alexandra Shatskikh. "The Jews in the Russian Avant-garde" (This article is a lot of things written on this subject.)

Citations can be to bring the sea. On it was written and Sarabyanov (who only wrote about it). However, it can be seen, and so ... Unless of course know how to see! And do not know how it does not matter are the real experts and primary sources that help to understand.


     P.S. Dear forum users do not allow all kinds of gurus fool my head even if they have a university education and high-profile names. Such art - the compiler is always more and they are incredibly aktivny.Oni write books, participate in forums, run by experts, in a word are spread its bushy tail at every opportunity. But their knowledge of books, empty, ... Unfortunately, on this forum are not many true connoisseurs. (Peacocks scared away.) But who knows, maybe everything will change ... Be brave!


And this is a peacock! It is very important and beautiful!
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Старый 27.07.2009, 07:40 Язык оригинала: Русский       #104
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Eugene: The letter was written not about who "was" but for the sake of who "will", and I must say, concern in the letter was not accidental.
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New Director-VI Lebedev.
Irina Lebedeva began in the Russian Museum, then moved to Moscow and entered the Tretyakov Gallery and works in her 23 years. Before becoming deputy director, she headed the research department of Russian painting of the early XX century. Her specialty - Russian avant-garde artists, it is not surprising that when in 2002, moved to the Tretyakov Gallery collection of contemporary Russian art museum Tzaritzyno with its curator, Andrei Erofeev, namely, the Irina Lebedeva had been high hopes that it will defend the interests of special set up of the newest trends to the more conservative part of the Tretyakov community.
But such a promising alliance, marked by a series of hit shows and a new permanent exhibition of art in the second half of XX century, which were masterpieces of underground and avant-garde today, ended with a loud gap. In the past year, the head of the newest trends Andrei Erofeev was dismissed from the Tretyakov Gallery - soon after it had opened a criminal case for "inciting hatred" in relation to organized them in the Sakharov Center exhibition "Forbidden Art". Tretyakov Gallery to the outrageous claims curator publicly outlined exactly Irina Lebedeva, acting as his main opponent. And Mr. Erofeev is charged with violations of accounting rules and the museum store looked unconvincing against his heated speeches against censorship ........
..... Yes, the Tretyakov Gallery, and in particular its historic part, loved by the people, but rather by inertia, and to Tretyakovka responds to the contemporary museum standards, want to make a little revolution. If it is able to make Irina Lebedeva, flag it in the hands .......
http://www.kommersant.ru/doc.aspx?DocsID=1169264
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We hope that in the Tretyakov Gallery which is the change ... If you minimize the work of the newest trends, will be very sorry.



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Старый 27.07.2009, 10:03 Язык оригинала: Русский       #105
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If you minimize the work of the newest trends, will be very sorry.
Agree! Let Vses flowers bloom!



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Старый 27.07.2009, 11:17 Язык оригинала: Русский       #106
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to Tretyakovka responds to the contemporary museum standards required to make a little revolution.
But enough already of the revolution!
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Yes, the Tretyakov Gallery, and in particular its historic part, loved by the people, but rather by inertia,
Well, of course! Therefore, there thousands of visitors from all over the world. The participants, who "out of inertia" on your ...



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So where thousands of visitors from all over the world. The participants, who "out of inertia" on your ...
Yeah, from America, Australia all fly airplanes, sailing ships, all go to the Tretyakov Gallery, thousands, hundreds of thousands of fans Shishkina want to see bears in the picture! : D: D: D
Only from Kiev something does not go all fan-seeker ... Afraid, apparently, that the crowds will trample him on human approaches to Lavrushensky, somewhere in Ordynka: eek:



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Старый 27.07.2009, 13:02 Язык оригинала: Русский       #108
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Yes, enough already revolutions!
This is not to be, when Irina Lebedeva will be quiet and order.



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Старый 27.07.2009, 13:49 Язык оригинала: Русский       #109
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And what is the case with an icon, with the Russian art of XVIII-XIX centuries? Where Russian artists were sent to learn from someone now forged Shishkin do, eh?
      LCR, abroad at public expense of sending artists that have succeeded in learning that is studied at the Imperial Academy of Fine Arts for several years. And that you do not Khukhro - Muhrram (artists attest). And not just a lesson, and the best of the best! They drove to learn! Because a real artist must learn to always! Precisely because Russian artists have a strong ethnic roots, have a strong art education and were open to everything new, they have not lost among foreign counterparts. Shishkin, for your information, the best of all, who once - something he studied in Dusseldorf. If you were at the exhibition, held recently in Moscow, then for you it should have been, obviously. Only huge (meter) line drawing of which is (the artist would understand what I mean). This figure can not make a mediocre artist. Bogolyubov exchanged works with barbizontsami equal (artists will understand). In addition, his work can not be confused with the work of any of the representatives of this school.

       A "fake Shishkin" of works by the Düsseldorf school doing just for professionals such as you, who believe in the tale of the secondary and the mediocrity of Russian art. What you want is what you get. (Early Shishkin really shows a clear influence dyusseldorftsev, which is quite natural. Next is the mighty Russian talent flourishes in all power and overshadows the Germans. Look, compare, and you will understand what I mean.)



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Only from Kiev something does not go all fan-seeker ... Afraid, apparently, that the crowds will trample him on human approaches to Lavrushensky, somewhere in Ordynka
If you're me, I am not in Kiev. In Kiev, am not so often. And in Moscow will be required this year and as a fan be sure to visit and I will note to you, without much fear. Maybe you meet there, among the exhibits in the halls devoted to the art of the twentieth century ...



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