Lithography and other types of lottery charts

[Маруся]

It is for me a hot topic. Help, please, understand. Any other questions (one already asked in the topic terminology, because it seemed the most appropriate of the recent).
What distinguishes lithography (stone acid) from the Silk (small stencil) theory about understand. If not right, content change, please. And, perhaps, from the Print /Estampa is a different use of some other printing techniques ...
Questions:
Is there a limit on the number of colors in lithography?
Is it possible to combine in one paper lithography and silkscreen printing?
Is it possible to distinguish one from another and even from the Print /prints, and how it can be done?

Half a day spent on the search for this topic at the forum, therefore, decided to try to combine that found (certainly not all)

Here the issue was discussed in detail (and very interesting)
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...695&page=2
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...7495#post77495

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Сообщение от Maroussia

What is the difference lithography (stone acid) from the Silk (small stencil) theoretically know about

I do not know what a "small stencil, silk screening but can be of enormous size.
This is a way of making designs through a stencil, yes. On the grid, with a very fine mesh (like pantyhose, only stronger) applied a special solution in the right places. Where this is not a frozen solution, passes paint. Lead such a special contraption (forgot the term), such as a spatula, only wooden, and slave. surface of the rubber, a long wide framework for its entire length. Two times normal.
How many colors you want to put as many of these frameworks and template.
Such technology was even 15 years ago.
Now in the west as well, but the materials are modern and comfortable. where table is necessary for printing a special, framed this fix, etc.

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

lead such a special contraption (forgot the term), such as a spatula

I remember-Raquel!

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Maroussia, I had a shop for the production of goods shirpotrebleniya and I studied serigraphy, I know the whole process and you described it.
What's wrong? What you do not like?

[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от Maroussia

Is there a limit on the number of colors in lithography?
Is it possible to combine in one paper lithography and silkscreen printing?
Is it possible to distinguish one from another and even from the Print /prints, and how it can be done?

1. In theory - no. In practice, I was not aware of lithographs more than 8 colors.

2. Maybe some people doing experiments. The lithograph can be "poured" on top silkscreen. This different techniques and there is no sense to mix.

3. Difference lithographs from silk obvious. In silk smooth, usually shiny colorful surface.

P. S. Maroussia, you will find a mixture of a lot of texts, it is not clear where his words are.

[Wladzislaw]

Here read:

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=38175

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw

Y silk smooth, usually shiny colorful surface.

Smooth just not necessary. My friend has a small print shop and specializes just on silk. So one time he became interested in multi-silkscreen paintings and made (specifically - copies of works Tsereteli) as much in 64 colors for the transfer of different colors and shades. I have one such home hangs. So there was not a smooth surface of paint, as it were, imitating the strokes of the artist. Obtained some very interesting things - even if closer examination would not think that this production of The Draw - the full impression that this author's work.

And so, in principle, you're right, Wladzislaw. I usually silk smooth, shiny, slightly convex colorful surface, are of much greater color intensity than, for example, in offset printing. For this silkscreen and valued.

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Сообщение от Admin

I usually silk smooth, shiny, slightly convex colorful surface, which has a much greater color intensity than, for example, in offset printing. For this silkscreen and valued.

In silk can use any paint-oil-art, printing, acrylic, even Nitra. We just compounds covering the grid to change under a specific color.
And tolschenu applied paints can be changed. The greater the distance between itself and the grid surface on which paint is applied, the more paint on the surface remains. Power squeegee pressure on the grid also gives a certain effect, natezhenie most grid. But from grunkovki the surface also depends. When pulling soil, the paint will be partly in the ground to leave.
Yes, you can achieve the effect serigraphy smears, etc.

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Сообщение от Maroussia

Is it possible to combine in one paper lithography and silkscreen printing?

Judging by the names of techniques in catalogs, everything is possible .. Work-best teacher.

  What are the techniques you know? Show your work,

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Examples: schelkografiya, linocut, drypoint and rubber stamp

Silkscreen, 60x50 cm with ink drawings from nature orig.19h17sm (great opportunities)
Linocut 30x30 can be 10 000 units say (ever so many do not have enough 25)
drypoint 7h9sm (very few high-quality prints can be sdnlat 8.9 total)
rubber stamp (bookplate) 50 000 thousand (useful for large bibltotek)

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Сообщение от Admin

as much in 64 colors for the transfer of different colors and shades.

Why? Stop and 4! (what aesthetic neobhodimist if enough chatyreh?)

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Сообщение от Maroussia

Can you kindly answer my question?

Maroussia, I learned how to cut linoleum on the books and printed in the bathroom with a wooden spoon (a Kofanov and tea metal) is the ancient Japanese way to hand-print)
So read it and try ... many will simply iyasnym. no questions asked. (a lot of books. инфы and declined as well in that as well.)
  Good luck!