The buyer and the artist: Ritual purchase

[Posav]

Paul, there are also buyers, with Pontius, who want beautiful drive up to the gallery, take a picture on the recommendation of gallery owners /Qi especially without bargaining (so that was nice). They go into a dirty artist's studio or a flat "no style". These donated paintings often are then stored in garages. Here Yarmolnik show on TV a garage and mentioned that he had stored there ... and donated paintings.

[L-ana64110]

Russia is a country of paradoxes and extremes Artdillery and gallery owners condescending and sometimes disdainfully refer to the artists while kotmyatsya their work, as officials and diputaty called people-cattle
To devalue the work of the artist's need to convince him that he had talent, now his work is worth pennies?? Here's to you and all the rituals

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Paul! a textbook example of a bottle! What kind Suomeksi may be a hangover! Then on the return is better not to negotiate

[artcol]

Сообщение от Pavel

In France, at Drouot often sell so-called workshops. After his death the widow or heirs to sell all that was in the studio. including furniture. All sketches and studies, tools, etc. The auction moves on until all the cities will not sell. What are artifacts? Ktoby Pizarro refused to have a chair or a Matisse. Well, let's say a simpler yet unknown artist? Or easel Van Dongen, but if you can afford. But the artist is unknown today, and tomorrow ...
So smart people in all times and collected collections. We also try someone unwind, to find the very best work when we should strive to collect more and earlier to put into circulation, rather than wait when the artist would die, but rather as soon as possible.
Because we are all smart and savvy traders trade no. The people he likes to choose and buy Narova cheaper to sell more expensive is the ground for the growth of prices.

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It is death and for trade. That is why our auctions are breathing incense and afraid to show prices. Art is the best means of investment, because the prices rostut, and all.

Paul, I'm looking at you - and yet you are as ready art dealer! It's time to have to move from theorizing to practice! Examples of such weight!

Сообщение от Pavel

Seryy.Sleduyuschy not just sell the car, and invite him to an apartment, make a table with a bottle, put the work that you want to sell, talk, wait until all the drink and only if a firm voice declared the price at about twice higher than he wanted. then you sbrsit bit. I do not drink.

And slipped into the bottle to h-n? On the other hand you are right: the atmosphere of the holiday should be, were present when buying art.

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And (demshizu and potstreotov Flooding please do not post my message). As long as Russia will agree to be a raw materials appendage of the West, colonized the country, has lost suverinetet (mental, financial, informational) - no investments in art, Drouot, and so on. would not be here. For the binding of free money, there are other tools - have little money and a lot of tools, and art with its low lividnostyu will remain a pleasant pastime. As for the collectors, and for artists.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от artcol

Paul, I'm looking at you - and yet you are as ready art dealer! It's time to have to move from theorizing to practice! Examples of such weight!


And slipped into the bottle to h-n? On the other hand you are right: the atmosphere of the holiday should be, were present when buying art.

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And (demshizu and potstreotov Flooding please do not post my message). As long as Russia will agree to be a raw materials appendage of the West, colonized the country, has lost suverinetet (mental, financial, informational) - no investments in art, Drouot, and so on. would not be here. For the binding of free money, there are other tools - have little money and a lot of tools, and art with its low lividnostyu will remain a pleasant pastime. As for the collectors, and for artists.

Incorrect view. Art-the most reliable means of attachment. Just nobody believes it because they all bring down high prices of Western art, but the first Soviet art already in the Western collections and is recognized as a style, and secondly no one in the west is not interested in selling the Soviet and create a competitor.
In order to raise the price of our auctions have to make the people believe in accessibility and independence of these auctions. You buy something for a million, and when you want to sell it, bail out their money and make someone you do not give the picture he does not like that you'll have the money and not share with him ... all, the end of auction. Therefore, to auction he worked on must be protected by the State, which receives taxes from activities and sales.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Seriy

today met with the amazing and fascinating buyers
me very much supported and filled with positive energy (besides money).

We meet at the station in their car. Not my first sale, I hope, and not the last. In this raises the question-and how to be an artist to communicate with the buyer? whether the rules, ritual. I understand that everything depends on the amount of the transaction and all the same ..:

1. Does the artist provide a meeting place, workshop (and if no?), In the apartment (and it is convenient to all?), In the gallery (and who will pay for services gallery ?)...
2. To what amount of the transaction can meet in the subway (the subway, in the car)?
3. Should a meeting occur inevitably during the day? In order that the buyer had no doubt that the next morning the picture will get other colors in the daylight? And if the buyer comfortable night?
4. Should an artist and as a packed schedule on paper? canvas on a stretcher? Cardboard?
5. Since some amount of the transaction is to issue a certificate of authenticity to the picture?
6. What amounts should be a contract of sale specifying the rights and responsibilities?
7. Obligated to sign an artist all his work on the front side, on the back?
8. Is there a refund picture? Under what conditions?


Interestingly it is the view of buyers, as they would like to have occurred paintings by the artist? And as it is taken in reality ...
Thank you!

In fact, paintings going for quite some time and tradition unsettled.
As the author and owner of the painting is the artist. then the first purchase should poizvoditsya an artist and nothing else. In All other must apply the appropriate effort to get interest from the sale of their efforts. Only so the buyer can ensure that you receive the original. Original garantiruetchsya signed by the artist, so the signature should be visible on the obverse.
For some reason, some believe. that the artist must necessarily sell through the seller is a fiction of crooks who are much more than the artists.
In my more important is not the first sale, and the possibility preobretateley sell the painting at auction. Auction-as the most democratic form of sale. Galleries and other shops store and sell pictures of their favorite artists, but the prices are fixed-price auctions. Etc.
Artist owed nothing to anybody, except that talent to paint.

[kozhinart]

In my more important is not the first sale, and the possibility preobretateley sell the painting at auction. Auction-as the most democratic form of sale. Galleries and other shops store and sell pictures of their favorite artists, but the prices are fixed-price auctions. Etc.
Artist owed nothing to anybody, except that talent to paint.
Who and how to manage the market of art? Who can opredilit quality? Talent, genius? "Why set up auctions, and why they are calculated to a greater extent on the secondary market? Artist can produce a product in terms of market, and sales of the product is markening.i Other Technology vozdeystviya.Tvorchestvo - this process is not zavischaschy from this, for each artist his own way-the main self-actualization.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от kozhinart

In my most important is not the first sale, and the possibility preobretateley sell the painting at auction. Auction-as the most democratic form of sale. Galleries and other shops store and sell pictures of their favorite artists, but the prices are fixed-price auctions. Etc.
Artist owed nothing to anybody, except that talent to paint.
Who and how to manage the market of art? Who can opredilit quality? Talent, genius? "Why set up auctions, and why they are calculated to a greater extent on the secondary market? Artist can produce a product in terms of market, and sales of the product is markening.i Other Technology vozdeystviya.Tvorchestvo - this process is not zavischaschy from this, for each artist his own way-the main self-realization.

Talent, genius is the word that acquire meaning with the growth of the artist's work. The value of the artist is still determined in the money. Who are willing to pay for it.
You can sell and in the car but then harder to convince the buyer in a decent price. From the workshop is more expensive at the academician is even more expensive, but not a fact. in a few years, this thing can be sold at all.
The trader is obliged to buy the thing if he was confident he could sell it, and all those on the commission is from the fact that a very trader is not certain, but the interest would like to have. The auction allows you to unscrew the names, and thus gives the earnings of traders. It includes a lot of turnover of things, but we know the more traffic, the higher the income. The artist is only the first step, more sales and purchases, the more the better for torgovtsa.Mozhet who knows another opportunity to increase turnover?
The biggest stupidity to prove the artist that he is wrong and then a huge number of artifacts lying around for years in the workshops, instead of to circulate through auctions, sales and galleries.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Pavel

The auction allows you to unscrew the names, and thus gives the earnings of traders.

The auction operates has promoted the works of authors.
"Untwist"-the task of other institutions.

Сообщение от Pavel

Talent

- Talent! Talent! - He said. - Undeniable talent! You have a positive
'll have success! (c)

[kozhinart]

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