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Seriy 15.01.2010 21:15

The buyer and the artist: Ritual purchase
 
Today met with the amazing and fascinating buyers
me very much supported and filled with positive energy (besides money).

We meet at the station in their car. Not my first sale, I hope, and not the last. In this raises the question-and how to be an artist to communicate with the buyer? whether the rules, ritual. I understand that everything depends on the amount of the transaction and all the same ..:

1. Does the artist provide a meeting place, workshop (and if no?), In the apartment (and it is convenient to all?), In the gallery (and who will pay for services gallery ?)...
2. To what amount of the transaction can meet in the subway (the subway, in the car)?
3. Should a meeting occur inevitably during the day? In order that the buyer had no doubt that the next morning the picture will get other colors in the daylight? And if the buyer comfortable night?
4. Should an artist and as a packed schedule on paper? canvas on a stretcher? Cardboard?
5. Since some amount of the transaction is to issue a certificate of authenticity to the picture?
6. What amounts should be a contract of sale specifying the rights and responsibilities?
7. Obligated to sign an artist all his work on the front side, on the back?
8. Is there a refund picture? Under what conditions?


Interestingly it is the view of buyers, as they would like to have occurred paintings by the artist? And as it is taken in reality ...
thanks!

iside 15.01.2010 21:37

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 855132)
but how to be an artist to communicate with the buyer? whether the rules, ritual

Seriy, I believe that if an artist sells itself, it automatically becomes a seller (read art dealer). Maybe you will not believe what I write, but able to sell right - this is the same skill, as well as draw the portrait in an academic style.

Люси 15.01.2010 21:44

Questions correctly.
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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 855132)
is required if the artist to sign all his work on the front side, on the back?

I am a buyer, and if I buy the work of the artist is important to me when the work of signing лутше! on the front side, on the back worse.
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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 855132)
Is there a refund picture? On what conditions?

The artist's paintings never vozvroschala, but the dealer byvalo.Ya think that if the buyer permanent, then of course the return must delat.Hotya all people are different !:rolleyes:

artcol 15.01.2010 22:00

Allow me to congratulate! :)

1. Does the artist provide a meeting place, workshop (and if no?), In the apartment (and it is convenient to all?), In the gallery (and who will pay for services gallery ?)...
Workshop - the best option.

2. To what amount of the transaction can meet in the subway (the subway, in the car)?
See the answer to the first question.

3. Should a meeting occur inevitably during the day? In order that the buyer had no doubt that the next morning the picture will get other colors in the daylight? And if the buyer comfortable night?
Not fundamentally. At the discretion of the buyer.

4. Should an artist and as a packed schedule on paper? canvas on a stretcher? Cardboard?
5. Since some amount of the transaction is to issue a certificate of authenticity to the picture?
6. What amounts should be a contract of sale specifying the rights and responsibilities?
7. Obligated to sign an artist all his work on the front side, on the back?
At the discretion of the artist and the buyer (if asked).

8. Is there a refund picture? Under what conditions?
Absolutely, if it is not custom work.

Seriy 15.01.2010 22:04

Lucy, packages whether you bought the work of the artist and how?

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artcol, on what conditions the return-period-week, month, year? amount is returned in full? I have yet (knock, knock, knock on wood) is not returned, but the product is a commodity. And, for example, ÀðòÍàó not return to me paid by 15%.

Art-ort 15.01.2010 22:08

artcol, "8. Is there a refund picture? Under what conditions?
Required if this is not custom work. "-I disagree!" Only in the case delineated in advance of such an option ... If you bought in a store cupboard, and it houses the color you do not like, you return the coin to this argument, I think net.Mozhno a lot paraleley.

artcol 15.01.2010 22:15

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Сообщение от Art-ort (Сообщение 855202)
artcol, "8. Is there a refund picture? Under what conditions?
Required if this is not custom work. "-I disagree!" Only in the case delineated in advance of such an option ... If you bought in a store cupboard, and it houses the color you do not like, you return the coin to this argument, I think net.Mozhno a lot paraleley.

If I am an artist (as a buyer, and not as a dealer) denies this request - I no longer had anything to buy. This is an important criterion for the artist's relationship to his creativity: the hard-won work, work, inspiration, etc. the author is always glad to accept returns! If it refuses to - raised questions.

Люси 15.01.2010 22:17

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 855182)
Lucy, packages whether you bought the artist works and how?

Usually yes, if the canvas is wrapped in foil or in packages (SAID from debris such big)., Scheduled to roll svarachivayut and paper wrapped .. And sometimes a film or the package will then badly :mad:- > dirty, dusty ... and t on, and so gave to the work folder or file is redkost.A happens and nothing gives :(... so I am now a package in trunk and drive a folder, just in case.

Seriy 15.01.2010 22:23

artcol, to take back no problem, some regret that I sold it, but I have absolutely no joy, if six months later the buyer who buys a piece of work, return it in a crumpled state, and the percentage of commission to me, too, will not be returned. A loyal customers I have, alas, not yet.
That is to say that the generally accepted norm in artbiznese not elaborated on the return?

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Lucy, because if we take as a rule of the pack, you have to have (buy), special packaging materials and tape, so as not to trash, and wrapping paper, so as not out of the herring, folders, cardboard on the lining of thin bumlistov.

artcol 15.01.2010 22:37

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 855252)
That is, that, generally accepted norm in artbiznese not elaborated on the return?

In theory, all rules have long been worked out and we :)
Compare in the aspect of returning to the market and Mr. brendovany boutique. Proceeding from this analogy can and build their policies on returns.
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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 856)
... but I am absolutely no joy, if after six months the buyer who buys a piece of work, return it in a crumpled state, and the percentage of commission to me, too, will not be returned. A loyal customers I have, alas, not yet.

If the bruising - this is one conversation, in six months - another. And if in a month? Set the period of return, ozvuchte him - and everything will be OK.

Shl Yes, all this applies only to modern art.


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