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Старый 11.09.2012, 13:45 Язык оригинала: Русский       #311
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Konkovo ​​And I am not
I used a figure of speech
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underpass in Konkovo ​​
In the nominal sense . Next time uchtu and speak more precise wording .
The way you described the sales
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does not show that you want vtyuhat
Not very suitable for selling pictures in galleries. Users who do not know anything and went to the gallery to take a look that is very difficult to persuade either to buy the more notable for the money. They do not ask price . And so on to write about the different ways you can a lot of sales .
And here's your version of " vtyuhat " about that ? About how the client came for Aivazovsky , and he vtyuhali Lozhkina Vasya ?



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Старый 11.09.2012, 14:09 Язык оригинала: Русский       #312
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I used a figure of speech

In the nominal sense. Next time uchtu and speak more precise wording.
The way you described the sales

Not very suitable for selling pictures in galleries. Users who do not know anything and went to the gallery to take a look that is very difficult to persuade either to buy the more notable for the money. They do not ask price. And so on to write about the different ways you can a lot of sales.
And here's your version of "vtyuhat" about that? About how the client came for Aivazovsky, and he vtyuhali Vasya Lozhkina?
Vtyuhat - jargon. I often use it because she does not like being something imposed. I agree that the picture is a product special. But I privedennyy method is suitable for him, because here everything is dependent on the level of the seller. If he is able to build the image of the product to the inner world of the client, the person will feel that this picture is close to him spiritually, he will buy it. Of course, I do not mean the onlookers who came just to stare, but those who did come to buy. How to calculate such a client-a separate issue.

P S. About Konkovo ​​I realized just pinned <- ~ 5 ~ ->
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Старый 11.09.2012, 14:21 Язык оригинала: Русский       #313
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About Konkovo ​​I realized just pinned
Yes?
Came true.
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Of course, I do not mean the onlookers who came just to stare, but those who did come to buy .
Here I am about the same. You did not notice my example ? I repeat - there came a man of Aivazovsky . In your what to do?
1. Aivazovsky or sell imitation of Aivazovsky vtyuhat you call it ? I think not, this fraud , not salesmanship ( vtyuhivat )
2. A man came over Aivazovsky , and he was convinced that Bob Lozhkin better draws water. So? And this was possible because:
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able to build an image of the product to the inner world of the client , the person will feel that this picture is spiritually close to him
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Старый 11.09.2012, 15:39 Язык оригинала: Русский       #314
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Laura,

Ability prodavat.chto libo.eto too obuchenie.sposobnosti and talant.Zdes true.

Sell ​​a man not to.chto nuzhno.pochti not likely. (For major consumer goods pokupki.a not of course). Here "vtyuhat" does not have the money prohodit.Chistye te.kto know how to save and spend.



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Старый 11.09.2012, 16:39 Язык оригинала: Русский       #315
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privedennyy But my method is good for him, because here everything is dependent on the level of the seller.
Not suitable.

You, sorry, not in the subject art trade and nothing here trying to tell something about it.



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Старый 11.09.2012, 16:53 Язык оригинала: Русский       #316
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Yes?
Came true.

Here I am about the same. You did not notice my example? I repeat - there came a man of Aivazovsky. In your what to do?
1. Aivazovsky or sell imitation of Aivazovsky vtyuhat you call it? I think not, this fraud, not salesmanship (vtyuhivat)
2. A man came over Aivazovsky, and he was convinced that Bob Lozhkin better draws water. So? And this was possible because:
  I actually do not mean pictures of specific authors said, but only affected the psychological impact on the buyer. Of course, we must consider the product and customer readiness. As a rule, those who buy Aivazovsky, understand the art better than the seller, and even better. And sell them Vasya Pupkin, even with all the enormous talent and intelligence perelmanskom seller-fail.
    Generally sell Aivazovsky - not vtyuhat and counterfeit of it-vtyuhat provided that say it Aivazovsky, and sell, to tell the truth.
    But given the fact that I do not like when I was trying to persuade to buy something, I use the jargon. Although, I agree that saying "vtyuhat Aivazovsky" - is not correct.
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Старый 11.09.2012, 17:02 Язык оригинала: Русский       #317
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Reception enchantment , it is used tsiganki . Means very good. effective. Another technique is Erickson's hypnosis - podstoyka under the client by establishing rapport. Must be able to distinguish people by temperament - is revealed in stature , facial expressions , gestures, phrases. Of sobsno and goes dancing - tuning. Man sees himself in tune with the man and he removed Automatic unit - he begins to trust. A dvoerie is already 50%of cases) .) The main thing is not to show that you want vtyuhat , try to learn about the inner world of the client, says more about him than about the picture , but the data of the picture gently inserted into the inner world of man.
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What about you , sorry, confused? Phrase tsigansky hypnosis? So this technique hundreds of years, and it has enjoyed korabeyniki Russian and merchants barker - is there any in advertising has istroii ))
All this moral corruption "disposable " ( outdoor) techniques ( IMHO)

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but only touched on the psychological impact on the buyer. Of course , we must consider the product and customer readiness .
You are fundamentally wrong.
At this level of sales (and any , perhaps) the most necessary condition is the construction of ( long-term ) of mutually beneficial relations (and not any man greater psychological impact ).
There is a concept " clientele " .. even if you do not say , and think in such categories it ( alas) not create




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Старый 11.09.2012, 17:27 Язык оригинала: Русский       #318
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I actually do not mean a picture of specific authors said, but only affected the psychological impact on the buyer. Of course, we must consider the product and customer readiness. As a rule, those who buy Aivazovsky, understand the art better than the seller, and even better. And sell them Vasya Pupkin, even with all the enormous talent and intelligence perelmanskom seller-fail.
    Generally sell Aivazovsky - not vtyuhat and counterfeit of it-vtyuhat provided that say it Aivazovsky, and sell, to tell the truth.
    But given the fact that I do not like when I was trying to persuade to buy something, I use the jargon. Although, I agree that saying "vtyuhat Aivazovsky" - is not correct.
All true. But rather it is not hypnosis, not persuasion, and psychological adjustment of the visual apparatus on the basis of the theory of buyer attitudes behavior, create a concrete picture of synesthetic perception and use of certain advertising techniques. After which the buyer who decides. All you can do well in the hall. Outside, just a lot of random people, but you can use it. Naturally, such a technology to learn.

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All this moral corruption "disposable " ( outdoor) techniques ( IMHO)

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You are fundamentally wrong.
At this level of sales (and any , perhaps) the most necessary condition is the construction of ( long-term ) of mutually beneficial relations (and not any man greater psychological impact ).
There is a concept " clientele " .. even if you do not say , and think in such categories it ( alas) not create
It is customary for dealers. But purely for economic reasons it is important not to have an ongoing relationship with resellers - sooner or later they will start to reduce the pressure of purchasing prices.
When the middleman is the last in the queue, it maketh it somewhat .




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Старый 11.09.2012, 18:20 Язык оригинала: Русский       #319
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I actually do not mean a picture of specific authors said , but only affected the psychological impact on the buyer. Of course , we must consider the product and customer readiness . As a rule, those who buy Aivazovsky, understand the art better than the seller, and even better. And sell them Vasya Pupkin , even with all the enormous talent and intelligence perelmanskom seller- fail.
    Generally sell Aivazovsky - not vtyuhat and counterfeit of it - vtyuhat provided that say it Aivazovsky, and sell, to tell the truth .
    But given the fact that I do not like when I was trying to persuade to buy something, I use the jargon . Although, I agree that saying " vtyuhat Aivazovsky" - is not correct .
Judging from your collection, you are just in the subject and the client Verniasazha Artualya . So ...



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Старый 11.09.2012, 20:34 Язык оригинала: Русский       #320
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does not fit.
You, sorry, not in the subject art trade and nothing here trying to tell something about it.
You are right only in that specific market prospect of art I do not really know, but I know the general principles of good, and they are for all the goods in general is the same.

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All this moral corruption "disposable" (outdoor) techniques (IMHO)
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I agree. This is a one-time event. Want to have a clientele, work primarily on trust!

You are fundamentally wrong.
At this level of sales (and any, perhaps) the most necessary condition is the construction of (long-term) of mutually beneficial relations (and not any man greater psychological impact).
There is a concept "clientele" .. even if you do not say, and think in such categories it (alas) not create
Ettochno!

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That's right. But rather it is not hypnosis, not persuasion, and psychological adjustment of the visual apparatus on the basis of the theory of buyer attitudes behavior, create a concrete picture of synesthetic perception and use of certain advertising techniques. After which the buyer who decides. All you can do well in the hall. Outside, just a lot of random people, but you can use it. Naturally, such a technology to learn.

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That's what the spec! (Begrudgingly )

It is customary for dealers. But purely for economic reasons it is important not to have an ongoing relationship with resellers - sooner or later they will start to reduce the pressure of purchasing prices.
When the middleman is the last in the queue, it maketh him a few.
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Judging from your collection, you are just in the subject and the client Verniasazha Artualya. So ...
I like simple, intellectually and not overloaded with colorful paintings for sale realism Normal taste for beginner
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