Relationship and mutual obligations between the artist and gallery owners

[vrusinov1]

Сообщение от Fed

Sabbat increases. Vrusinov still wonders why he is in the galleries are sent to other ...
     To cool the ardor, a survey with a girlfriend (not even among the sober): "You buy a sculptural group 17. Or pay 2,5 times more to buy a carving of a certain citizen of Kharkov in the countryside?".
It was about this, and not about the ability to cut. What can (as pointed out by another party) and in South-East Asia, but for normal money. Dial - in the network have enough stores in Indonesia. Also copied though Rubens, though Picasso.
     My education-not exactly an artistic distance that allows me to write "ESTET" in small letters and competently.

You certainly do not ARISTOCRAT, this is understandable and sotspolozheniyu, education, and not a count - for the treatment of women., And not a SPECIAL ART! At last you claim, I have made a copy of Rubens ...... I see the smiles of people working in this forum over you. I want to tell you that I have not copied the oil Rubens :-))). Only then can you call it LEGIBLE COPY! : confused:: mad:: (
For comparison, consider, for example, there Screenwriter and author of the book, and FILMMAKER puts on it HUDfilm. Another example: there is melody, someone put it on her poems. Or on Esenin created so many masterpieces of melody and song! And they and I do not take away COPYRIGHT in the first place. And never has there been such a precedent for centuries! Izobazhayu I'm in that vision, in the format on the film or those notes, which speak in depth. Trotsky compared to you-REST! Yes, I beg you to switch, if replicating INDONESIAN than here? Find me with my counterparts in world carving in high relief, and I format it. Then I ZASUNU their work up your ass. And they went out photos of this act of all! What you are dirt, we have things to teach other people. Leave us with a young lady alone! I tell you disgusting, but I remember their aristocratic origins.

Сообщение от Eugene

laugh and do not be nervous, mixed up two different topics, investments in medieval antiques and investments in modern art, talented skulptora.Na SodBi, Christie and the Middle Ages, and modern authors there is strong demand .., but it completely different topic.
Good luck to the sculptor.

Absolutely agree! We go to the previous topic.

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

... and find the source ...

Natasha,
    Artists live Creativity and self-esteem;
  Galeriisty - ambition and obsession.
    They are physically weaker, but they have a choice. Hence we rasstvoryaetsya immediately PRIDE at a meeting with them, surely kill us because we have already got on their territory. This is also a big factor. There is an unequal battle We have 1 in them 2. Ie 1 to 2. Therefore, and play. But this does not concern us with you!
    I do not understand one thing. None of us does not require 1000 000 or two. But do not be ashamed to get 20 000 or $ 40000. I can speak insistently of only two of their past works. Early is baby talk. And no more. Must be clear to all. On each of them, I spent a net time of 4 months of work? Today, every businessman gets Baule $ 5000 per month? Open your eyes. REALISM!
So we have challah at someone?
Reketiry get more, not even by pressing the trigger sometimes ..... They are so loved and respected as well .....

[DSF]

Сообщение от VYACHESLAV

do not agree with your assessment and the characteristics of artists 'Soviet' period ...
... With the works by artists familiar Samara.

Dear Vyacheslav! You raised such a serious issue that no forum is not enough. I will try to be brief. I am not talking here about the work of artists, is a separate topic, I'm talking about the practice and psychology of relationships between the artists themselves, with the state and, at the moment - with galleries.
In Soviet times, artists were forced to live on a double standard. Yes, the state gave the orders and controlled the artists, but they are something between a state-wing mat, and orders are not called otherwise than by the word "trash". We tried to hurry this "hack" painted and easily pass the admission committee. And so there were no problems, must have his people in key positions, so for these positions was a fierce struggle. Fate and the quality of the paintings did not worry anybody. I took their "Hurray", in others - were cut. And to justify this attitude came up with excuse: Behold, they say, hack I write - this is for earnings and for creativity in the studio, I write quite another. This dual approach is unnatural, but it is still very popular among artists. By habit, all that is done to order, is considered the "hack". Now they say: for the gallery - "plywood", and for exhibitions and for themselves - work. But man can not write one now with talent, and the other mediocre. This is called a split personality. As a result, the artist had either shalturivatsya (there were many, for they do not require effort), or to break off all relations with this flawed system to maintain its "I" (those little calls for courage), or try to include any work creatively, that to himself was not ashamed (of too little, and walked along this road is mainly a landscape painter, because apolitical genre).
This atmosphere of duplicity has created the special nature of man, particularly psychology. And this mentality is very difficult relationship gallerist and artist.
About Samara. If you know Samara artists answer yourself the following questions:
How many young artists have arrived in Samara in the last 30 years? And how many left? What is the average age of members of the Union? Why Togliatti at the earliest opportunity with the battle left the Samara Branch of the SC? Why Samara does not have an exhibition hall? You know about the attempt to exclude from the union of 4 people for anti-Soviet propaganda? Why regional exhibitions every year the same names? Why artist V. Kletzel simply fled to Israel, and where the work, which he left at the store one of his "friend"? Why in Samara, only 3 galleries, and even that one is more like a bench, and the other half sells imported goods? All attempts to open more of at least one failed? Why? You know, that still is a brutal war for control of the premises available to the Union? I recently finished off a heart attack artist Gerasimov. And the questions can be continued.
Notice I'm not talking about creativity, but the relationship of people. Once again - Culture relations here does not smell. In this city, the artist is no future, until the older generation dies out. A gifted and no longer a young artist told me that he was ready to wash the brush in Nikas, only to leave the city because he was there - no one, despite its numerous exhibitions and a fairly well-known name.
And the best of a talk heart to heart with Tibushkinym, he porasskazhet you a lot about the psychology of local creators, if he wants.

Сообщение от VYACHESLAV

For all its narrowness and stupidity, the State understood what impact the art has on the current cheloveka.A now employs only himself

Present, too, understands this perfectly. Why we see what is happening with contemporary art.

message from Cyril Syzransky:
That Van Gogh's "local bottling know one, but it is hardly sold anywhere else, why? Do not know.
There are, though more local "Chagall" and "Utrillo" and all ... like ...

The first "Van Gogh" - Purygin, second - Teryokhin, the third - a man from Novokuybyshevsk, I do not remember the name ...
And who "Chagall" with "Utrillo"?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от DSF

The first "Van Gogh" - Purygin, second - Teryokhin, the third - a man from Novokujbyshevsk, name I do not remember ...

Purygin Not so, the artist does not Terekhin, third Novokuibyshevsk do not know, I meant Chernyshov (so it seems his name, I'm not familiar with him, had disappeared in recent times, still life, wrote a large number of objects).
"Chagall"-Novokreshchenov Victor, "Utrillo"-Sasha Uhanov, love him.

Сообщение от DSF

Why does the artist V. Kletzel simply fled to Israel

Properly done, Benjamin Mikhailovich immediately and a new life began, and the new-great-page creation.

Сообщение от DSF

is ready to wash the brush in Nikas, only to leave this city,

And wash your hands do not need to leave is not difficult at all.
Recently, a remarkable artist, a real artist, his name will soon sound-left and lives, works and baldeet of buzz. Himself only curses for lost time ...

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от DSF

The first "Van Gogh" - Purygin

A remarkable man. " In art school and institute a supertalantov, which "went to watch.
About Valentine Zakharovich - http://www.artmus.ru/collections/purygin/index.shtm

[artcol]

Сообщение от DSF

Dear Vyacheslav until the older generation dies out.

Sorry, the old generation of what? Artists? Or nomenclature rats? Artists no longer exists, and the rats - unless they have brought forth?

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Yes, and the hand washing is not necessary, leave is not difficult at all.
Recently, a remarkable artist, a real artist, his name will soon sound-left and lives, works and baldeet of buzz. Himself only curses for the lost time ...

please open secret kkto is such a great left and where?

Сообщение от Buscador

Paul! Your remarks about the fact that all the site to read more, have led to positive results. All intensively read. And you just write. And some rubbish. After all, if you state that in addition to the French Impressionists - no other good artists, you should at least know that among them were those who love open-air (Renoir, Monet), as well as those who did not recognize the plein-air (Manet, Degas )...

What is so rich and happy.

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Correctly done, Benjamin Mikhailovich immediately and a new life began, and the new-great-page creation.

That's strange, there are "remarkable" the artists and leave them no one else knows. They came later and tell them over here as fun and as they bored in Palestine some Bedouins around, waiting for when they leave. They recall how learned how difficult it was in the centrum of the city and as many portraits of Lenin had to draw them to get the Volga.
Let's wait until it blossom there.
And anyone else has already bloomed? Here Dina Rubina kakto everything here is printed in the eyes of the same kind of Jewish sorrow, and a terrible bore. Let go. Be cleverer.

Van Gogh and others only in one number. Others simply imitators. Purygin drunk in America and not here nor there. Who? Each artist must have a proud name, which is difficult to confuse with others. Do not understand it, do not understand the essence of art.
DSF continues to sputter. Long word mind short. When will we see your masterpieces?

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от Pavel

Purygin drunk in America and not here nor there

It's about who you are, You are omniscient?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Pavel

please open secret kkto is such a great left and where?

Very talented, very. Noticed it already. Once put on the request of Moscow. Dep. or the Academy (I did not Pts. disassemble in Moscow. hierarchy) one image at a large Moscow soyuzovskoy exhibition and immediately received the Grand Prix (I think so the prize was called).
Is now preparing a major retrospective exhibition, great! Show-that is, that!
Name not tell me it types. But later, necessarily.
He left for Moscow.

Сообщение от dedulya37

It's about who you are, knowing you are our?

About Lenya Purygin "genius of Nara.
You really do not understand about Pavel as well? He "writer" rather than "reader" ... : D
Did not see it your message on Valentine Zakharovich.

[vrusinov1]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

This then rkch. But I am signing a contract with the artist under the compulsory sale of 1.2 operations per month (or for a certain amount), and every six months, we are taking stock. If sold more - payable balances, if less - the artist has already received his. But less - is that the work of this gallery. Need to know what you do and if you can not sell 2 of the contract the artist - engaged in another case.

  Semen Semyonych!
  Please Respond to this question.
   For example: .... If I went to the big auction of his work (from the author), it is conventionally called - is related to the primary market. And with this market they do not like to work. This is an axiom.
And if my close relative in New York will bring to this auction and will deposit my work but on his own behalf, will be dealt onto the work relates to the secondary market?
   Thank you for your wishes. Very interesting people. Forum is beautiful. A lift of interesting information. As a pupil at the school lessons.
Vladimir.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от DSF

The first "Van Gogh" - Purygin,

It's about this artist was so disdainfully said: "Van Gogh spill?
And I liked hudozhnk ...