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Старый 02.05.2009, 14:34 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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По умолчанию Degenerate Art? Art of degenerates!

I - a new man at the forum, can therefore immediately rushed to the eyes that unhealthy paranyalny passions, which led to a discussion of Hirst's art, and which - truly repentant - himself succumbed. It reminded shootout Hippo in "a bad apartment».

Even the discussion of dermo-containing statements of tar, published in one of the leading Internet information portals Runet, and "abraded" in one of the tops, have not caused such a flurry of emotions, as variations on a theme dirty craft Hirst.

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How to turn a cornucopia, poured rotten, dirty, and unreasonable charges on each of the "warring" parties, but the paradox was that the work of Hurst, in general, no one has taken seriously, and did not share.

At best, the most tolerant forum users expressed that the art of something (in the historically formed his understanding), of course, "creativity" Hirst and does not smell. However, as a sociocultural phenomenon, it certainly deserves careful consideration.

It seems to me very rudely bacillus people and became actively proliferate at the time (or near the time), when the voiced phrase "degenerate art". And flew it to the topic with my keyboard, what, and expressed regret so far.

The fact that the concept of "degenerate art" was a result of processes is quite natural and logical, nominalizirovano, and then tightly tied to its meaning, to the destructive activities of the Nazis. Own is the meaning of the term with lost.

In essence, the term became taboo and people are already on a subconscious level, trying to push him away and "ban", using any means available, even foul language. On the original meaning of the term no longer remember.

This phenomenon is and his own inside. Everything that is designed to protect degenrativnoe art - green street. Same dared cast their vote for its rejection as soon possible to label the Nazis, fascists, hruschevista, putinista, Nashi, etc., etc., pr ... This is the stumbling block.

Therefore, "degenerative art" I will continue to be called "degenerate art" (ID), for support of degenerative art (literally, not in the Nazi sense) can only be an artist-degenerate (degenerate, as is known - is a sick man with signs of mental or physical degeneration).

Degenerate, because of deficits in its development and for a number of other reasons, has infantile, one-sided and rigid mental organization, sluggish, cold heart. Mental activity it can manifest itself only in the form of hysterical psychopathy (O. Kulik, A. Brenner and others like them perverts).

At the same time, these "artists", by virtue of their inherent hysteroid accentuations, easily suggestible, and therefore, they can easily manage that and make a great success hierarchy "International incompetence": guru of art-business and political strategists, "the curators of art."

The term "Internationale incompetence", by the way, is attributed to the poet J. Brodsky - unquestionably a genius, in spite of logic, highly esteemed by the ideologues of the most notorious of the "Internationale". What is the reason? Perhaps the desire to sit down next to the great, and maybe in the national identity ...

It does not matter. Himself as the "International ..." as the body is a direct continuation, genetic twin of that ominous Golem, homunculus, grown in the late XIX century, the Marxist-Trotskyist curly camarilla and now living preying on people's hearts, souls, minds.

Following this logic further, one can note that the foundation, the foundation of this evil, hate "International ..." and induced them to "degenerate art", triumphal procession on the planet, to start laying still in the era of the Reformation.

Then, the revision has not only the fundamentals of Christianity, but its reduced form - Catholicism. In the long-suffering Russia, echoing the Reformation, rolled, so-called historians, conspiracy Judaizers, whose consequences remain to this day (not as a consequence of "the principle of Butterflies") ...

Nevertheless, Russia, up to 90 years of the last century was, in Orthodox, indestructible essence, the last bastion of protection from the harmful effects of so-called metastasis, the Protestant ethic, with the agility of a monkey drawing the spiritual values in the "metal" ...

With the fall of the Soviet Union, who were the result of "liberal-democratic" revolution, which started and after that the pogrom and mockery of the national culture, religion and human values, CI is no longer "sub", and the dominant culture degenerates, "the streets" to take a crap in museums, public masturbate and fuck with animals ...

They applauded delighted "Internationale", they shall worship halls and exhibition areas, as they said the whole country and even shows on TV. At international exhibitions, fairs and biennials are just degenerates "Russian Art" that looks like an insult to the entire cultural history of Russia.

To return to Hirst. The risk of penetration this degenerate (others are smaller scale) in media and cultural space of Russia, as his nasty misanthropic, pat-psychological "art" consists not only in iconicity Hirst, but on the contrary - in its demonization ...

And then, and another - a kind of appeal, no longer only and not degenerate, but simply people with fragile and infantile spiritual organization. Thus, through agents, intermediaries, such as Hirst, "The Internationale" makes CI self-reproducing system and breeds, with the help of a feedback mechanism, new degenerates.

From now on, even without investing much money in contempt, koverkane and distortion of the art (and the remnants of Russian culture in general), you can sleep at night - the process is ... And soon, all creative people, nor their fans will shit in public places and carry over the tail of a cow carcass. And, most importantly, everyone will believe - it is art!

So I understand the reason for a hard-hitting situation prevailing in the Hurst-topic for a May Day session. This is natural. The question burning and the participants thoroughly lay on different sides of the barricades. So much the better. It would have nothing to discuss, if everything on the site were groupies.

Further suggest, nevertheless, willing to speak about whether there was a general in nature such a distinction, on opposite sides of which are art and «Art degenerates», and if there - how to grope her. No rudeness ...
 
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[B]further suggests, nevertheless, willing to speak about whether there was a general in nature such a distinction, on opposite sides of which are art and «Art degenerates », and if there is - how to grope her. No rudeness ...
 
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This face virtually none. And it does not exist not only in art but in everyday life.
Judge for yourself .... a little drunk is drunk or not? When the drinking starts, but when people just relax? Same thing with drugs, sex, smoking. Even the murder ... in a peaceful life for this plant, and the war give the order.
Everyone probably determines for itself the brink. When the same man he had already crossed it does not know and looking for justification for their actions.
Sometimes the whole company goes this line. Unfortunately, this is human nature.



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this face virtually none. And it does not exist not only in art but in everyday life.
Judge for yourself .... a little drunk is drunk or not? When the drinking starts, and when people just relax?
I agree with you, dear Veronic! But you decide for yourself had this face the opposition of "drinking - drinking. I also neustraivaet that drunkenness in such a situation, the logic of "facilitators" should become a standard.

This happens constantly and, in relation to alcoholism - too! So go now, and with beer bottles and children, and young mothers, and all those who have already accustomed to the "beer courage" curators "of other areas. This is - exactly what will happen to our art!



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Talking Amount degeneratologii Contemporary Art

Not Lepo whether HN byashet, brothers, cling to the pure springs of folk art?

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Modern art - a degenerative and nezhisnesposobnaya component of the global community. Modern art - pathetic, immoral, and immoral.
Modern artists - a mutant, a handful of moral freaks and degenerates.
Modern artists - cretins.
Treat them to be, all these "artists"!
Modern art - it is a spit in the face nomalnym people. For patients with more exciting world of ...
Modern art is hopelessly small!
Modern art - is a nightmare!
Crush all this rag-tag at Auschwitz! Modern art - it is cheap, false and sludge. Vysiry regular psevdohudozhestvennyh piles of shit.
Modern artists - losers, cocaine, and homosexuals who try to harm Russia, practicing Western grants. A contemporary art - it is dirt, filth, pornography and violent behavior, it shows the brutality, drunkenness, and necrophilia, and contrary not only to moral and human values, but also the laws of the State.
To shit in a museum - that's all that can be a modern artist. I feel sick from such art.
Modern art is suffering from impotence and masturbation! Deny it must tries!
Modern art - a miscarriage idiot fag, pregnant by the impotent!
Contemporary art seems to us immoral mask his deathbed grin!
Contemporary art can be rescued only by the guillotine.
...
The flow of people's anger, which systematized Pluttser-Sarno, is available for contemplation at http://plucer.livejournal.com/56438.html

Hopefully, this folk material completely override the theme, kindly initiated by Dr. Nedogonov th, and his conviction will save him from further efforts in the ungrateful herstologii science-like.



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Hopefully, this folk material completely override the theme, courtesy initiated by Dr. Nedogonov th, and his conviction will save him from further efforts in scientific-sounding ungrateful discredit the degenerative nature Hurst, herstokratov and herstoprodavtsev.
Art-lover, really. nEherst



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По умолчанию Degenerate art blue noses

«Blue Noses offered to look beyond their noses
  "Interra" began with the exhibition of modern art "Look!"

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Colorized all colors of the rainbow against the backdrop of trombonist Opera blows "Dark Eyes". A woman from the crowd requires an accompaniment to the song his own composition. People dancing on the wooden jetty leading somewhere in the dungeons. Photographers gallop around the street orchestra. And then the crowd dies down, with his head up. In the niche of the second floor, effectively draped green building grid appears Vyacheslav Mizin. Calmly and somehow detached surveyed the neighborhood, he let go of pants sheaves colored sparks and smoke. The thunder, screams and applause. "If he so effectively ends, it is interesting how he starts?" - Asks one of the musicians. With performance "Fireworks" famous n-lic art group Blue Noses traveled half the world, and Novosibirsk bored and silent.

"As we have done the art 200-x" - the subtitle of the project "Look!", Which opened last night in an unfinished building of the theater Sergey Afanasiev. The brickwork, plastered walls, cement floor, hung with cellophane windows combined with a very annoying antics actual artists who make art out of all that lies under their feet. They do not need respectable galleries with parquet floors and chandeliers. They do not wear tuxedos, butterflies and varnished boots.

Gallery owner Anna Tereshkova - the main figure in this celebration of life. One day in her bright head came the idea of "Look!" She said:

- I have long dreamed present in Novosibirsk slice of our contemporary art, which is widely known in the West, but here it is not known. Guys, I said to them, when I find a good cellar, and I'll show you. And so I did not sleep at night, and next morning I come to Sergei Afanasyev, I say that I was born a project - an exhibition in your unfinished theater. His first reaction: genius! Then all began to turn, spun around this, artists, architects, designers, artists, journalists - all connected and have worked with virtually no money. The last time these sensations I experienced as a student: guys, let's do something! Energy that unites people who can sweep away the mountains!

Power swept mountains of construction debris and turned the long-term construction of exhibition space. Screams are heard everywhere - this video, watch and enjoy his own reflection in a distorting mirror. Self-made toy robots Omsk Damir Muratov combined into a series of "Good Bye, era!" - Replicated stamps stuck in my head man in the street, placed under glass cases. In the center of the hall is equipped with a basketball court, a basket nailed to the foreheads of symbolic persons: Karl Marx, Leo Tolstoy, Albert Einstein and Michael Lomonosov. Kick right place ...

The main characters are here, of course, "Blue Noses". Vyacheslav Mizin, Alexander Shaburov, Konstantin Skotnikov, Yevgeny Ivanov wander among his works, some of which are made on the knee, while others are printed in a modern lab. For the first time in Novosibirsk in the same space provided what they've done in the decade of its activities. Plush Toys, Teletubbies, monkeys, cult kinogeroi socialism, western diva screen, politicians, terrorists - all in one harness. Well, of course, scandalous Kissing millitsionery, frozen in arms against the backdrop of a birch grove, the very ones which the then Minister of Culture Alexander Sokolov called "the shame of Russia", - the place of honor. And then - kissing ballerina. They - the symbol of "Look!" Kissing sailors. And even zheleznodorozhnitsy. "Era of Mercy" to cover all social strata. Topics actual artists are provocative, as their characters.

"Adult men play the fool" - considered by many, particularly members of the traditional art. Well, yes, "Blue Noses" to strip to his shorts, a frosty November day went to St. Basil's Cathedral and pose for the photographer. Solid cynicism. This "New fools. Or, again undressed, but now closing the face masks of politicians, are removed in obscene poses. Solid pornography. This "Mask Show". Or here. Dark room. It is not clear that there will be then, dressing room or bar, and while it is a cement bag, which is only one subject - video projector. Spot shot from a prone position, the image is on the ceiling, where ... How would it pokulturnee speak. When worn on the tennis courts with racket, uttering cries of a sexual nature, rarely of the men who does not dream of jumping from the stands, lie on the grass and stare up under her skirt. This top secret obscenity "Blue Noses" dragged into the light of day. Or rather, not on sunlight, and in an empty room, where the spectator is alone with their own fantasies.

Mocking the idiocy of life, over her idols and authority over its cliches and cliches, "Blue Noses" fleeing from all this irony and laughter. They address the creativity of the people, but not always shavaet People. Ret is not easy to solve the intellectual subtext of their work. Eugene Ivanov says:

- This is not simple, not glamorous art to understand it, need training, you need to know the context, the discourse, to understand that people who do live in a different dimension than those who come to watch it.

Watch came representatives of cultural power and creative figures: Andrew Filichev, Vladimir Miller, Valery Brodsky, Alexander Nazimko, Andrey Shapovalov, Alexander Lozhkin, Timur Gordeev, Sergey Gagarin, Alexei Kazarinov ... "In the Art Museum of normal temperature, 36, 6, and here few degrees above ", - said the most advanced P-sky art, and now director of the Khanty-Mansiysk museum Vladimir Nazansky, referring to the Biennale of graphics, passing along a couple of blocks away.

You bet. "Look!" - Is not only an exhibition but a series of installations, lectures, concerts and performances throughout "Interra". Artistic Director of Ballet NGATOiB Igor Zelensky dared to show the precarious stage of long lasting piece of its production to the music of Edward Liang "Whispers in the Dark", and followed him out on a platform of electronic music pioneers of the Novosibirsk Nuclear Los and musician touring Roman Stolyar. In the hall there is no velvet chairs, the stage there is no scenery. Water either. And heating. Barely covered buffet table, like smashed and shattered into small fragments of glass. Fortunately.

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They are somewhere in the blogs someone so eloquently called it, that they are not blue noses, and blue s *** ŋë. Actually these so called want to take away the shares for 15 days for violation of public order, or whatever it is called this article. Try the United States on the street to walk with bare ass or display their genitals.
Another case:
Brener during its shares jump over a rope stretched from the church, read his tekstik and then, after the words "and now will drive merchants out of the temple, ran and kicked alms to a beggar (if I understood correctly from the video). There is a saying that my personal freedom ends at the tip of the nose of another person. But these so-called Democrats or liberals saying it does not matter - because they are not democrats at all, but extremists revanchists.



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Hack already somehow the idea of these kisses ..... Although I think that they are contrary it is seen as the development ....



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hack already somehow the idea of these kisses ..... Although I think that they are contrary it is seen as the development ....
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