Anselm Kiefer (1945)

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Сообщение от Tasha

Painting gloomy and slightly depressing, but it is not hopeless, when there is no God. God is present, he simply ... "behind the scenes. In these paintings are not darkness, but rather a shadow. And without a shadow of light does not see. I have a whole picture seem interesting.

When God "behind the scenes - it felt. Here it is not ...

There is something in common with the late Chelishchev ...

[gans]

Сообщение от Tjutchev

This is - not true!

I think for those who died in Stalin's camps, you can easily add many, the best people of Russia, destroyed since the beginning of the revolution.

Moscow was covered with a continuous network uzilisch, torture chambers, places of mass executions. It seems no one has tried to recreate this grim picture that has become commonplace for the post-revolutionary Moscow. Of course, do not have to qualify for full information on this issue: too scant documentary evidence we have, too deeply they are hidden. Yet even the crumbs should collect the evidence to be able to understand what was happening then in Moscow, and mentally to stay close to the martyrs in their last hour.
No need to recall how to do (or not done) in those years the investigation. Still, for clarity, is worth quoting parting words of the most prominent KGB officer, one of the vice chairman of the Cheka, M. Latsis, addressed to employees of investigation and inquiry.
"Do not look at the investigation materials and documents that the accused acted in deed or word against the Soviets. The first question that you should offer him - to what class it belongs to, what he origin, background or education ... These questions should define the the fate of the accused ".
http://www.rusk.ru/st.php?idar=6069

[LCR]

Сообщение от Tjutchev

Indeed dismal painting. There are snakes, earth, fire, man, cold empty space, but there is no God.

Kiefer like Chelishchev?
In my opinion, not at all - nor late nor early on.

On the other hand, no matter how pleasant to me to see that some - not too big - part of my stories is the forum response, the nature of this reaction is perfect, in my opinion, unsatisfactory.
Personally, I came to this forum because they thought that they say about art. If I was interested in a political plot structure, I would have enrolled in the appropriate forum.
There are too many talk about things neposredstvovannogo relationship to art is not available. At first, all this was happening in the arbor, and political subjects could not discover what I did. But now, I think there is almost no single branch, which would not be affected by this plague.

I do not know how things stand with you, from my training and placement of my messages requires some diligence and time, they are designed for people like me who are interested in art.
So, I suggest you stop in to discuss the branches devoted to the art of political, social and other matters.

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Сообщение от LCR

Kiefer like Chelishchev?
In my opinion, not at all - nor late nor early on.

I wrote this:

When God behind the scenes - it felt. Here it is not ...
There that the general with the late Chelishchev ...

I wrote about the mood created these artists. Do not be taken too literally.

[fross]

Сообщение от LCR

So, I suggest you stop in to discuss the branches devoted to the art of political, social and other matters.

But in this case, the German artist chose to creative political issue - to bring all the feelings of horror of Nazism to the generations who did not see it and not let to forget and repeat. And it works beautifully conceived pass them. I have nothing about his purpose is not known, but the work attracted and aroused frustration fear.

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Сообщение от fross

But in this case, the German artist chose to creative political issue - to bring all the feelings of horror of Nazism to the generations who did not see it and not let to forget and repeat.

That's why I felt it appropriate to give and vyderku of Brodsky, where he says the same thing.

[LCR]

Сообщение от fross

But in this case, the German artist chose to creative political issue - to bring all the feelings of horror of Nazism to the generations who did not see it and not let to forget and repeat. And it works beautifully conceived pass them. I have nothing about his purpose is not known, but the work attracted and aroused frustration fear.

It's true. But the artist has achieved its goal of plastic means, that in them, I think it would be interesting to understand.
Disputes worthy of employees of retail trade, the number of victims of each of the regimes that do not belong here.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

That's why I felt it appropriate to give and vyderku of Brodsky, where he says the same thing.

Treat, please, with respect to the request of the woman.

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

Treat, please, with respect to the request of the woman.

What is it you? What, please? Whose?
I was not ochem not asked.

[Konstantin]

I removed the accusation.
Enjoy the painting. I am personally very impressed. Live probably quite cool.