Anselm Kiefer (1945)

[Тютчев]

Indeed dismal painting. There are snakes, earth, fire, man, cold empty space, but there is no God.

[LCR]

Сообщение от Tjutchev

Indeed dismal painting. There are snakes, earth, fire, man, cold empty space, but there is no God.

Kiefer like Chelishchev?
In my opinion, not at all - nor late nor early on.

On the other hand, no matter how pleasant to me to see that some - not too big - part of my stories is the forum response, the nature of this reaction is perfect, in my opinion, unsatisfactory.
Personally, I came to this forum because they thought that they say about art. If I was interested in a political plot structure, I would have enrolled in the appropriate forum.
There are too many talk about things neposredstvovannogo relationship to art is not available. At first, all this was happening in the arbor, and political subjects could not discover what I did. But now, I think there is almost no single branch, which would not be affected by this plague.

I do not know how things stand with you, from my training and placement of my messages requires some diligence and time, they are designed for people like me who are interested in art.
So, I suggest you stop in to discuss the branches devoted to the art of political, social and other matters.

[fross]

Сообщение от LCR

So, I suggest you stop in to discuss the branches devoted to the art of political, social and other matters.

But in this case, the German artist chose to creative political issue - to bring all the feelings of horror of Nazism to the generations who did not see it and not let to forget and repeat. And it works beautifully conceived pass them. I have nothing about his purpose is not known, but the work attracted and aroused frustration fear.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от fross

But in this case, the German artist chose to creative political issue - to bring all the feelings of horror of Nazism to the generations who did not see it and not let to forget and repeat.

That's why I felt it appropriate to give and vyderku of Brodsky, where he says the same thing.

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

That's why I felt it appropriate to give and vyderku of Brodsky, where he says the same thing.

Treat, please, with respect to the request of the woman.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Tjutchev

Treat, please, with respect to the request of the woman.

What is it you? What, please? Whose?
I was not ochem not asked.

[Konstantin]

I removed the accusation.
Enjoy the painting. I am personally very impressed. Live probably quite cool.

[LCR]

Сообщение от fross

But in this case, the German artist chose to creative political issue - to bring all the feelings of horror of Nazism to the generations who did not see it and not let to forget and repeat. And it works beautifully conceived pass them. I have nothing about his purpose is not known, but the work attracted and aroused frustration fear.

It's true. But the artist has achieved its goal of plastic means, that in them, I think it would be interesting to understand.
Disputes worthy of employees of retail trade, the number of victims of each of the regimes that do not belong here.

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от LCR

I do not know how things stand with you, from my training and placement of my messages requires some diligence and time, they are designed for people like me who are interested in art.
So, I suggest you stop in to discuss the branches devoted to the art of political, social and other matters.

Nana, all have great respect for you and your contribution of interesting posts on this site.
"The dog buried" in the fact that you and all the French do not get outside as much the policy of the media. Therefore easier for you to concentrate on pure art.
Yesterday our president in his speech mentioned the art and how it should develop.
I can assure you now begin a new wave of settlement of people from the arts who want something a lick and so all these conversations are inevitable.
They are inevitable historically.
In our society, too much politics. You know me better than that from her damned depends our whole life. We can not get out of this rut and again descend into it every time because of bad roads. I hope you understand me.

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от LCR

Kiefer like Chelishchev?
In my opinion, not at all - nor late nor early on.

On the other hand, no matter how pleasant to me to see that some - not too big - part of my stories is the forum response, the nature of this reaction is perfect, in my opinion, unsatisfactory.
Personally, I came to this forum because they thought that they say about art. If I was interested in a political plot structure, I would have enrolled in the appropriate forum.
There are too many talk about things neposredstvovannogo relationship to art is not available. At first, all this was happening in the arbor, and political subjects could not discover what I did. But now, I think there is almost no single branch, which would not be affected by this plague.

I do not know how things stand with you, from my training and placement of my messages requires some diligence and time, they are designed for people like me who are interested in art.
So, I suggest you stop in to discuss the branches devoted to the art of political, social and other matters.

LCR, as long as you do not give the possibility of doubt that your post is addressed to me, I consider it necessary to comment on it.
     As you probably have already noticed, your fruitful efforts are not unnoticed by me. I'll tell you even more, your theme on the content of some of the most informative in this forum. This topic is no exception. Despite the fact that an artist I was not close, I was curious to know about his work. That's why I tried to express his attitude towards his writings in the hope that the conversation will continue to our mutual satisfaction. How easily can be calculated, I had written 5 posts, three of which just directly related to the topic under discussion. And you could not help but notice that I'd never join a political discussion, except when flagrantly distorted the history of my motherland. But that is typical, I never initiated discussions about politics. Usually, I react to especially egregious cases of distortion of historical truth. I think it is generally characteristic of people who think that, of course, are true artists. Therefore not surprising that often in the subjects of art appear politically motivated withdrawal. Art itself is inseparable from the social processes that occur around the artist, part of which he himself is.
     The problem, I think, in another. And it is in fact, as being such discussions in our forum. After all, in itself a comment, similar to that exhibited I (http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...11&postcount=9), does not pose a threat "zabaltyvaniya" and vulgarisation topic. Such threats are of a dilettante and indeed impudent remarks. The main producer of such "product" on the forum is Cyril Syzransky (unfortunately, the posts confirming my words have been removed by the Administration). Provocation, rudeness, ignorance, have long been characterized his style of communication.
     It would be far more useful, respected LCR, if you, as a participant in the forum, which has undoubted authority, explained to Mr. Cyril Syzran, how to behave in polite society. This would help address the problem of flooding and excessive aggressiveness on the forum. After all, this is what makes any discussion, in which there are political issues (as it inevitably will), in a quarrel.
       Unpleasant and hopelessness of this enterprise are clear, so if you do not want to do this, you will find in me understanding. But I ask you to continue, do not blame the blame on a healthy and do not blame me for what I do not have any relation.

     Sincerely, Tiutchev.