Shishkin?

[Santa]

Сообщение от Artem

In 1865, after graduating at the Academy of Shishkin has already written a " Type in the outskirts of Düsseldorf ! Why is the established master copy , sorry , frankly weak picture and still with all the dates and signatures ?

Absolutely right , 200 percent .
Work frankly weak .
For Shishkin is too primitive .
In general, the discussion of this stuff in relation to Shishkin , even as it incorrectly .

[Аннагригорьевна]

Сообщение от Santa

Absolutely right , 200 percent .
Work frankly weak .
For Shishkin is too primitive .
In general, the discussion of this stuff in relation to Shishkin , even as it incorrectly .

  T.e.Shishkin in any age, even quite young , I could not copy the image , which was previously painted Stackenschneider ?
  Then the version can be only one - the picture with the initials AS and the inscription Peterhof 184 ? added a signature Shishkina ? Well, why so stupid ? And the picture is not in his manner , and the year is not suitable . Dear experts , tell them their version . 'll Be very grateful .

Added after 58 minutes
Maybe this is generally the signature is not Shishkin, but something else?
Viewed through a magnifying glass, all very melenko, including the picture itself 15na 11.
Dear forum, and you seen that written?

[нина-нина]

The format is typical for applications to the journals the first floor.
XIX century.
Give the size of the image to the format of the worksheet.
Two signatures: the engraver or draftsman + by song or artist.
Coloring by hand.
In the museum, this piece could get as the picture of historic places.

[Аннагригорьевна]

The sheet 22 to 16, and the oval pattern 15 to 11 . Oh, do not give me rest this Shishkin - neShishkin . Crawl the Internet and found that at this time the architect I. Charlemagne (maybe this is his signature ? ) painted watercolors in Peterhof . http://images.google.ru/imglanding?q =%D0%98 %20 %D0%A8%D0%B0%D1%80 %D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0 %BD%D1%8C%20 %D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%80 %D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%20 %D0%9F%D0%B5 %D1%82 %D0%B5%D1%80 %D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%84 & imgurl = http://pics.livejournal.com/neringa_...is.livejournal .com/14402.html & usg = __GYzjydy2T8glWb7PCovOTPob3zI = & h = 433 & w = 650 & sz = 72 & hl = ru & zoom = 0 & tbnid = PF4HBQRPxyX5MM: & tbnh = 91 & tbnw = 137 & ei = BQTgTYy5McbWsgaoipXDBQ & prev = /images%3Fq%3D%25D0%2598 %2B%25D0%25A8%25D0%25B0%25D1%2580 %25D0%25BB%25D0%25B5%25D0%25BC%25D0%25B0%25D0%25BD %25D1%258C%2B%25D0%25B0%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B2%25D0%2 5B0%25D1%2580 %25D0%25B5%25D0%25BB%25D0%25B8%2B%25D0%259F%25D0%2 5B5%25D1%2582 %25D0%25B5%25D1%2580 %25D0%25B3%25D0%25BE%25D1%2584 %26hl%3Dru%26newwindow%3D1%26sa%3DN%26tbm%3Disch & itbs = 1 & newwindow = 1 & sa = N & tbm = isch & start = 1#tbnid = PF4HBQRPxyX5MM & start = 5 Do not like ?

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Сообщение от Annagrigorevna

Oh, do not give me rest this Shishkin-neShishkin.

If you read the inscription elephant cage "buffalo" does not believe your eyes. (c) >

[Аннагригорьевна]

Сообщение от Nina Nina

The format of the typical applications for first half of the journals . XIX century . Give the size of the image to the format of the worksheet. Two signatures : the engraver or draftsman + by song or artist . Coloring by hand . In the museum , this piece could get as the picture of the historical sites .

  Nina , Nina , and could not there a Shishkin act as an engraver or a painter ? He also mastered the technique of lithography .

[oleg01]

This is a lithograph, and as usual, the left side of the author writes the story (picture right) and engraver, publisher, ie
the one who engraved or printed, why are only the initials do not know.

And do not compare the lithograph and original artwork from the plot of which it is made.
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Сообщение от oleg01

This is lithography, and as usual, the left side of the author writes the story ( picture right) and engraver , publisher , ie the one who engraved or printed , why are only the initials do not know .
And do not compare the lithograph and original artwork from the plot of which it is made . >

  It's too clever for me )) ) I understand that the author - A.SH , 1845 Peterhof , and engraver , I.Shishkin ?

[нина-нина]

when copying signatures do not make - it's the law . - Lithograph - Draw technology . Art Students earning this money , which is not always encouraged . Art was not considered . And Charlemagne - a whole dynasty , and, incidentally, was moonlighting in the magazines . In the first pol.veka was popular and woodcarving . Making the same . A format you book .

[oleg01]

Сообщение от Annagrigorevna

It's too clever for me))) I understand that the author-A.SH, 1845 Peterhof, and engraver, I.Shishkin?

On the contrary, the author of the story Shishkin (a Shishkin do not know), and made a lithograph A.SH

That's likely to be correct.