How to unleash the artist (paper)

[babochka]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

For America - is the norm. And how you thought ?

I thought that the percentage of 25%. Generally, I would read up on how to negotiate with agents, artists, gallery owners and managers! Are there any generally accepted rules, or everything is in agreement?

[LCR]

What a brilliant defender found himself a local Stalinist!
Bravo, sir (no offense, that appeal to you, without resorting to the language, okay?)

Сообщение от observer

Gallery Claude Bernard really shop, as the vast majority of galleries, that is a commercial enterprise. And others it may be only a charitable or otherwise hidden from outside view, motivated owner. Everything you mentioned above, commercial galleries, too, that imply a profit from its activities.
Like other shops, various galleries specialize in selling items to the public with different levels of material opulence. Gallery of Claude Bernard is now serving customers, related rather to a level slightly below average in this pyramid of creditworthiness. But it was not always the case. At a time when he had branches in America and Germany with that name were considered to artrynke. His word was a weight on the international fairs of contemporary art, may not be such as in Denis Rene, but, in general, somewhere in the same row. Gallery not shy away from publishing activities, and attracted the media. Now you can contemplate only the echoes of the brilliant time. Critical publication in thinner, somewhere in the same notorious Newspaper Drouot, but the beau monde of Answers of previews, here you can see and Marina Vlady and Karl Lagerfeld. By the way, the main customer base of Claude Bernard is people from the closed-off community, to which belongs Lagerfeld, and Bernard himself.

Of all the above draw the conclusion that the specific inaccuracies I have not allowed (except to replace the adjective "commercial" with "ambitious" eh? "Do you approve or inaccuracy again?), Since the goal was no description of the glorious past the gallery of Claude Bernard, and its much more pale now. I also think that with the gallery Denise Rene it was difficult to compare, even in those distant glory years.

Сообщение от observer

Ready, madam, to agree with you that creativity Zhylinski, Steinberg, Zaborova put it mildly, not below the level of the national art museum, but this is already a fait accompli - they are already there. So the lack of "museum" of artists from Bernard - inaccuracy. 

I think that there is no inaccuracy: Claude Bernard - French gallery. In my plans did not include assessment Steinberg or Zhylinski. Speaking of the "museum of the artist", I naturally had a view of artists whose works were acquired by French museums over the last, say, 20 years old.

Сообщение от observer

There are others. Honors some beginner message subject and reputation surpasses that commission, which pays the auction house owner sold the work, a big secret, and believe it. In fact, the secret of this may be, that you bear to sell well, something really very expensive and will require the implementation of the auctioneer of your belongings without a commission or minimal compared with the normal, which can be found on its website or by telephone. However, there is a hidden wickedness. Given a document for the sale, you may be unpleasantly surprised that in addition to finalizing the fees you've been for the services of an expert (usually 3%), transportation costs (sometimes for the transportation picture 30x30 cm at a distance 200m will bill you at 300e), in some cases with you take some interest in favor of the artist or his heirs (sometimes "forgetfulness" you are invoiced in spite of the fact that after his death has already passed more than 70 years), in addition, if your thing is sold in more than a 5000e and a have no proof that you own it for more than 10 years, deduct another 5%in the fiscal cash register state. Could something else to count. Everything depends on the ingenuity and audacity auctioneer. In reality, the amount earned by the deliverer at least 18-25%of the price from under the hammer. Approximately the same number (in some cases more) and take to the buyer.

I think (too lazy to check) that the question to which I replied, was formulated very specifically: "What the commission the seller pays the auctioneer?" On Web sites, auction houses indicate the fees paid by the buyer, check yourself. Question of the commission the seller is solved every time a personal contact. Various tax revenues and the expenses of the examination, transportation, or placement of play things in the catalog, since we are so sensitive to the inaccuracies, can not be equated with the commission, is not it? Regarding the right route, it will not be deducted from the amount owed to the seller, the buyer pays it separately.
I will not continue, let me express my admiration for detail, the first part of your response (and do not care about inaccuracies, they do not count!).

Сообщение от observer

However, the pathos of this position is not nit-picking, inaccuracies, or search for spots on the sun, but something quite different.

Madam, why do you bite, but even in such a crude form of naive, not very informed, clearly confused, truly believing in what I want to believe - in El Dorado, "Drouot" Russian artist? He and so confusion in my head, and you batter and batter him, publicly humiliating. To put your own words in relation to other members, by what right?
You have your education and experience to help to understand what they want it, do you also recognize, nebestalannomu and it seems good-natured man, because for such prinarodno derogatory expressions like type, flog crap, ignorant , whether you are male, in decent society you would be called a duel. He will not answer the same code on the same channel.
Do not you explain to me how vulnerable and defenseless in the majority of these artists, as in need of benevolent attention and co-feeling.
I do not see it envy, but only the naive candor enough educated painter. Well, he genuinely did not understand how you can admire the poster artist Bulatov or sad neophyte Suprematism Steinberg, as can be, with the same sincerity, you do not understand some admiration forumchan domestic products of the recent past. And there envy?
Do not torment him, do not make it an object of ridicule and bullying (this and other forum participants, too). Remember, he, though not original in his artistic ideas, but, nevertheless, this painter, whom in our time is less and less, and that little something to be cherished.

We now come to the second, glaring part of your message.
All would have been nice if the local Stalinist not stained everything it touches: Gallery Romanov exhibition opened Steinberg? - Rogues! Thieves! Here Bernard learns, have already, he'd show them!
Mark Rothko? Who? What is the rating for Acuna? In general, a scoundrel, sold his country, before he was called Redko!
Artist A.? Yes, the whole plant so doing! Artist Boris? The level of youth studio!
All the artists exhibited in the Russian museums, bribed Directorate, Ministry of Government.
It appears that you are well delved into some - quite numerous - that have been posted in this forum. If you continue this briefing, though time-consuming exercise, you can not not see that envy and hostility are the main qualities of your client.
I can only add that if he ceased to shamelessly ripped off the great artists of the past and tried to develop his own style, make a name for himself he would have been much easier, and it is hoped that the anger would have it diminished.

Whereupon leave. Continue this subject I have not located.

[Jasmin]

Сообщение от LCR

tried to develop his own style

Do not know, maybe I'm wrong, but maybe he needs advice or a push to give the right direction - because it is not so bad ... People change at any age, and artists all the more ... question Can a person take a new and abandon its "stereotypes" ...

[DSF]

Unfortunately, such people will never change. They are from my youth. I had one such a familiar artist. He considered himself a genius in his youth, the best artist of Russia 20 th century, all the rest were simply pygmies compared to him. "Incompetent" and "g ..." - its basic terminology in relation to colleagues. He thought that if he just escape to the West, and he will rake in the millions, because West is art and then there was, however, one fine artists - Picasso, "and he is, speaking the truth, - a pig." However, after several attempts flops sales in Europe, where no gallery is not even the head turned toward the "genius", our hero suddenly became terrible patriot. Now he is Europe can not stand, and now he wants to work only for the dear to his heart Russians.
However, it is desirable that the Russians were what some oilmen. However, MPs will also come in useful.: D

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от DSF

Now he is Europe can not stand, and now he wants to work only for the dear to his heart Russians.
However, it is desirable that the Russians were what some oilmen. However, MPs will also come in useful.

I know a similar story, but they figured America.
Now this American artist is called "Pindos" terribly hated them, as indeed all the rest. : D

[SAH]

Сообщение от DSF

"incompetent" and "g ..." - its basic terminology in relation to colleagues.

Yes, people forget that much just like a boomerang back to himself.

[Buscador]

Сообщение от observer

Do not torment him, do not make it an object of ridicule and bullying (this and other forum participants, too).

Dear observer! All, it might be so, if Pavel did not taught all and sundry, what to do, often in those matters in which he had little meaning. If he had used information from first sources, and not newspaper articles. If, finally, the information he gives - was interesting, but not related only to Stalin and the Drouot auction. Because of the painting as an artist, he never spoke. All this is just - so buy, sell some sort ... It is, of course, is entitled to their own point of view (and he expresses it), however, and his point of view, often personally, touches the forum. It was the opinion of some - ignore his remarks. That, it seems to me, and wrong. Although not respond to any statements everyone can. There is another method - to ban (or whatever it's called). I've always been against it, considering it simply a manifestation of weakness.

P.S. I personally like the fact that we all pass restless, passions run high! I was also attacked some (and Paul included). It makes better prepared to fight ...: rolleyes:

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Сообщение от Jasmin

Do not know, maybe I was wrong, but perhaps he needs advice or a push to give the right direction

Ridiculous! What tolchek - approximately known. And then the direction is always one ...: D

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от babochka

I thought that the percentage of 25%.

You know, 25%gallery simply will not survive.
Arithmetic prstaya: notional value of the author's picture of 1000. Plus 25%.
Selling -1250. The cost of the frame for such work - 150. And, as a rule, regular customers have the discount - from 5 to 20%(take 10%). Now believe.
1250 - 150 - 125=975. Gallery remained to be an artist. And here is not calculated employees' salaries, travel expenses, advertising, kom.platezhi ....( and rental premises, have it).

Сообщение от babochka

Actually, I would read up on how to negotiate with agents, artists, gallery owners and managers! Are there any generally accepted rules, or it happens in agreement?

I think for this you can open a special column

[Grigory]

Paul blocked for a week for the rudeness!

[fross]

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