The buyer and the artist: Ritual purchase

[fross]

Сообщение от Seriy

fross, about to dispose of stale ... So I then suggested that one artist poporobovat a combination of pigments, to which she replied, it would be good, but where the money for paint? Here is an example of a poor young artist's pre-revolutionary Russia from 1000 works to 25 years. If you take the cost of the most modest work on cardboard, but it is 100-500 rubles. Linens are Multi base of hundreds of rubles each. T e amateur painter put on Multi base to ten thousand dollars of their money in these works. Many twenties can afford it? I now have a little more than 100 works, small, mostly on cardboard, hardboard. Spent money on direct material Multi base thousands of dollars. Now I think to go to the canvas. The first order holstinok - 25 thousand rubles. For this simple reason, young artists do not DEPOSITS works, nor of what thousands of studies to 25 years there could be no question. And this is very bad.
In the province, Learn writing, young artists do not buy, they invest in the work of their money earned on the side. So artists have to constantly sell, regardless of the masterpiece of their works, and laughing is not something to be better to buy at least the forces that you will help the art more than buying a Van Gogh.

Practice only painting can afford or are already demanded by the artist or someone who will maintain close. Everyone else always had to deal with and registration activities and carry out orders of publishers, and, you know, a real master is in no way impeded. So calls to buy only on the grounds that the canvas and paint are the money - this is nonsense. Nobody did not come to mind to buy the failed courses at beginner cooks, because they use expensive products there, or kosovatye suits for beginners tailors, they are also on the material shelled . "And imagine that they have and the price of the query as a work of culinary /Design Art ?

[Seriy]

iside, and I, incidentally, sold his work in the U.S. for a long time, sold cleaned. So that experience is in America and I like it a lot, especially the nature of the climate. But laziness, my mother before I was born, sitting here. But here, I am alive and kicking, do not perish.

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fross, do not want, do not buy, but the condemnation of artists that they sell their work can also be neshedevralnye abstain.

[fross]

Сообщение от Seriy

fross, do not want, do not buy, but the condemnation of artists that they sell their work can also be neshedevralnye abstain.

I agree with absolutely no blame, but not if they try to put pressure on pity or issue not that behind the masterpieces and works of art works are not, then excuse me promise I will not

[artcol]

Сообщение от Mihail

artcol, you know that the same think that if Tretyakov returned Levitan bought from him now, and would demand their money back, Levitan would be jumping for joy? Or you say that the picture Levitan not suffered enough ..
Remember that an artist paints the picture is not much for himself, but for the viewer. Returning now an artist, you deprive him of the viewer. For the artist returns painting extremely unpleasant, though to me this was not the case.

Once again: My answer to this question was addressed to the artist gray. In his situation more useful to the request to return a positive answer. If asked Levitan or Tretyakov with his situation - the answer could be different.

[Seriy]

artcol, but why should I return, and Levitan not?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Seriy

Why American galeristskoe spends his time writing and sending out free advice amateur painter, satisfied vebseminary and he is not the only one in America, land of lucre and greed. And we have - if only one worthy to ...

Recently, the first deputy head of presidential administration of Russia Vladislav Surkov gave an interview in which he said: "Own our intellectual powers are small."
Read it here and to your other questions there are answers. And not only yours.
For example: "I like a simple patriot, let me not be condemned for that Patriots leaven, and respect the Westerners - for their creativity, mobility and creativity to all areas of human activity."
Or, some of our members: "Perhaps, someone in the West and jealous of our commodity abundance, but also something imperceptibly, so that from there to us in large numbers migrated people."

http://www.itogi.ru/russia/2009/44/145418.html

And, the last quotation, for Pavel a, he likes to recall this artist:
"In his time a famous French impressionist Paul Cezanne was very displeased with electric lighting in the streets of Paris. He believed that this world is wrong, although at that time the introduction of these technologies was a big step forward ..."

[artcol]

Do not want to - do not return! You may well say:

and why should I return, and Levitan no?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Recently, the first deputy head of presidential administration of Russia Vladislav Surkov gave an interview in which he said: "Own our intellectual powers are small."
Read it here and to your other questions there are answers. And not only yours.
For example: "I like a simple patriot, let me not be condemned for that Patriots leaven, and respect the Westerners - for their creativity, mobility and creativity to all areas of human activity."
Or, some of our members: "Perhaps, someone in the West and jealous of our commodity abundance, but also something imperceptibly, so that from there to us in large numbers migrated people."

http://www.itogi.ru/russia/2009/44/145418.html

And, the last quotation, for Pavel a, he likes to recall this artist:
"In his time a famous French impressionist Paul Cezanne was very displeased with electric lighting in the streets of Paris. He believed that this world is wrong, although at that time the introduction of these technologies was a big step forward ..."

From this passage, I made 2 things:
1) has at least 2 kinds of patriots: kvass and easy. We take into account.
2) For simple intellectual powers are not great, but at kvass - probably even less?
Getting reach some, stirring.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

artcol, well, jingoistic patriotism, "a phenomenon davnischnee, more
He wrote: "I can not stand enthusiastic patriots, leaving forever to interjections or kvas yes porridge," and joked over Vyazesky "leaven patriot"-Slavophile Aksakov dressed in Russian national dress, "and which was taken for the surrounding Persian.

[artcol]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

artcol, well, "jingoistic patriotism," a phenomenon davnischnee, more
He wrote: "I hate it I enthusiastic patriots, leaving forever to interjections or kvas yes porridge" and Vyazemskij joked over the "leaven patriot"-Slavophile Aksakov dressed in Russian national dress, "and that surround took over Persia.

Interjections in an interview Surkov enough. Not simplified the even seen until the end, I see strong leaven.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от fross

I agree with absolutely no blame, but not if they try to put pressure on pity or issue not that behind the masterpieces and works of art works are not, then excuse me promise I will not <! -- - ~ 1 ~-->

How are you going to determine which artists are to be bought and what is not? Who can? All tezhe game master, who will judge? There is only one way to do it.