How to unleash the artist (paper)

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Pavel

To do this long and hard working, college, institute, then the hard work is subject to the availability of talent.

I can assure you galereist too somewhere studied and continues to learn, because you should always keep abreast of constantly tying the right contacts and, of course, to work no less an artist.

Сообщение от Allena

The ability to sell works of art ...

And here: look for artists, staff recruitment and training, preparation of exhibits, the selection of frames, advertising (brochures, catalogs, magazines, television ...), invite the right people ...

Сообщение от Pavel

Owners of galleries usually sell well-known artists. This implies that these works will be fed much more expensive than purchased.

I can assure you that this is not so. Target galereista - to make the artist, which began to work, to be known. Here's the necessary contractual relationship that we have yet to honor ... And we still get (often) - you begin to work with the artist, who may be aware, but do not buy very much, invested in the promotion, the album, introduced the influential people with the work of the artist, persuaded them to buy it and like it And then ... we ourselves with a mustache. As they say: Eat your first, and then - each his own.: Rolleyes:

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Сообщение от Pavel

so you can vtyuhivat anything.

We're talking about the good galleries and a good artist. Many artists think so - and, so come down, "shavayut. And "vtyuhivayut" semi-finished products. Especially if the work is custom and money already received (I am speaking about such artists as those galereisty, as you say).

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

I can assure you galierist too somewhere studied and continues to learn, because you should always keep abreast of constantly tying the right contacts and, of course, to work no less an artist.

And here: look for artists, staff recruitment and training, preparation of exhibits, the selection of frames, advertising (brochures, catalogs, magazines, television ...), invite the right people ...


I can assure you that this is not so. Target galereista - to make the artist, which began to work, to be known. Here's the necessary contractual relationship that we have yet to honor ... And we still get (often) - you begin to work with the artist, who may be aware, but do not buy very much, invested in the promotion, the album, introduced the influential people with the work of the artist, persuaded them to buy it and like it And then ... we ourselves with a mustache. As they say: Eat your first, and then - each his own.: Rolleyes:

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We're talking about the good galleries and a good artist. Many artists think so - and, so come down, "shavayut. And "vtyuhivayut" semi-finished products. Especially if the work is custom and money have been received (I am speaking about such artists as those galereisty, as you say).

You are right in that the conditions as now have to get out of way, but look at the difference in prices that have to operate curator in the west and us. Why? In fact they have artists luchshe I doubt it. The matter misrepresented, I think that they are working more from the auction and gallery owners do not determine prices and auction, independent galleries, with the most far-reaching and independent. Then he will trust and sell the paintings at auction and gallery owners to buy and this will affect prices. If you can sell, then will buy.

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Pavel

But look at the difference in prices that have to operate in the west and gallerist with us. Why? In fact they have artists luchshe I doubt it. The matter misrepresented, I think that they are working more from the auction and gallery owners do not determine prices and auction, independent galleries, with the most far-reaching and independent. Then he will trust and sell the paintings at auction.

Just before we had not yet reached the culture of the relationship between the artist and galereistom. That's for you galereist - a huckster who wants to cash in on a poor artist. In my gallery, for example, we are working on two systems: one where the artist calls his price, and makes gallery mark-up (from 50 to 100%), and second, where the gallery determines the selling price, and the artist gets half. Rama, discounts to clients and other expenses, are made of parts. which earns gallery

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

Just before we have not yet reached the culture of the relationship between the artist and galereistom. That's for you galereist - a huckster who wants to cash in on a poor artist. In my gallery, for example, we are working on two systems: one where the artist calls his price, and makes gallery mark-up (from 50 to 100%), and second, where the gallery determines the selling price, and the artist gets half. Rama, discounts to clients and other expenses, are made of parts. which earns gallery

If the gallery owner is not trying to sell at a higher price and earn more he is a bad gallerist. Being a trader is not bad but of course for the profession. The question is how gallery owner can raise the price? Then another question is no tool for this.
Relationships gallerist and artist-are generally left to shake down artists who have received a lot of people use this to work and produce on a mountain masterpieces, but there're spending on drink. It should influence gallerist. Why do I say a trader or Marchand, because he sells it buys, but does not serve anyone else.
And more about the culture I would not beat his ears, cheeks - we are in many ways far more cultured than the west and about relationships, too. We lack the art of speculation, which would become profitable to buy art. This is a very serious topic, write books, so the obtained excerpts and absurdities in the records.

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Pavel

If the gallery owner is not trying to sell at a higher price and earn more he is a bad gallerist.

Not so simple. In order to sell at a higher price should pass the time during which the market will be announced artist. And then the price is not made, and the objective. And just to sell more expensive as time and means "vtyuhat" without any work. Because no problemma - sell one Karnin. Is the work of street vendors (nothing against them). Problemma to say (do) the market price hudozhnika.A for this needed to be done. If, of course, to undertake the work seriously ... Price not declared, and "done".

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

Not all that simple. In order to sell at a higher price should pass the time during which the market will be announced artist. And then the price is not made, and the objective. And just to sell more expensive as time and means "vtyuhat" without any work. Because no problemma - sell one Karnin. Is the work of street vendors (nothing against them). Problemma to say (do) the market price hudozhnika.A for this needed to be done. If, of course, to undertake the work seriously ... Price not declared, and "done".

I totally agree. Price is. Done as a result of multiple purchase - sales. Price may grow and fall, vaozhno that it has reached a certain level. I am concerned that the sell-net mechanism. Usually this auction. It seems to me that no one understands the mechanism of the auction and see what will be a price reduction. I do not know what was going on? They're coming abstract references to the auctions, somewhere far away.

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Pavel

is made as a result of multiple purchase - sales. Price may grow and fall, vaozhno that it has reached a certain level. I am concerned that the sell-net mechanism. Usually this auction. It seems to me that no one understands the mechanism of the auction and see what will be a price reduction. I do not know what was going on?

And yet we speak with you about several different things. Summing up the sales of (semi-annual and annual) are doing the analysis: how much to sell stock of a particular artist, who buys, what, where to go work, what is needed in certain subjects, etc. This work gallery. It is, so to speak, is a little cabin in nature and are calculated on the promotion of artists and their vision ... Auction also exhibited, as a rule, "top" artists, a little stirring their promotion of a little-known or contemporary collections of personal collections (if you gathered enough). And here is an attempt to "make money" (not the artist) today and now ... It seems

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

And yet we speak with you about several different things. Summing up the sales of (semi-annual and annual) are doing the analysis: how much to sell stock of a particular artist, who buys, what, where to go work, what is needed in certain subjects, etc. This work gallery. It is, so to speak, is a little cabin in nature and are calculated on the promotion of artists and their vision ... Auction also exhibited, as a rule, "top" artists, a little stirring their promotion of a little-known or contemporary collections of personal collections (if you gathered enough). And here is an attempt to "make money" (not the artist) today and now ... So I think

Such an attitude to shareholders associated with distrust nim.Kazhetsya that the success of an artist must be guaranteed and there complete anarchy, but it only seems. Auction Duo - independent of galleries (I quote an example of what I know). They sell everything and give the impression of independence, but in fact there are people in the halls from which everything depends. This gallery owners. They raise and lower the price. When you set the price - when the thing is selling multiple-going rise in the price-all the things that artists appear tutzhe appear in galleries, where prices are higher so much dictated by raising auction. The task gallery owners to find an artist who can raise the price even further by repeated sales of its rising prices by creating a demand that is not all gallery owners sell the work once, but as far as raising the demand. Since approximately.

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Pavel

So some.

I do not know how it happens in Russia or Ukraine seychas.Na one artist, alone, can not go to auction. Or, if he agrees to pay money for it. But, anyway, a big chance that his "rolling" ... Auction (independent - not) no sense raskpuchivat artist, not having enough material.
I, as owner of the gallery, did not occur to him to buy at auction, then to stand by itself. On the contrary, I am from his collection of works meters, or purchased by the work of living artists (but then their collection should be at least 40-50) put up for auction. Then, watch the reaction, or (and this is more likely) take part in the auction, sometimes by raising the price for "their artists." And such works at today's auction - half. Sometimes, auctions come to me with a proposal to put something such.
Vobschem, the level of the auction depends on the quality of "top" of work and the level of visitors ... And the level of galleries - from the overall quality of work and level of visitors.

[LCR]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

I do not know how it happens in Russia or Ukraine seychas.Na one artist, alone, can not go to auction. Or, if he agrees to pay money for it. But, anyway, a big chance that his "rolling" ... Auction (independent - not) no sense raskpuchivat artist, not having enough material.
I, as owner of the gallery, did not occur to him to buy at auction, then to stand by itself. On the contrary, I am from his collection of works meters, or purchased by the work of living artists (but then their collection should be at least 40-50) put up for auction. Then, watch the reaction, or (and this is more likely) take part in the auction, sometimes by raising the price for "their artists."

Of course, you are absolutely right. Neither Russia nor in Ukraine, nor in Europe nor in America, on Neptune or Mars auction houses do not develop the primary market, they are engaged in the secondary market. To make the work of any artist could be displayed on the bidding, we need well-established prices.
Owners of galleries really bought at the auction items (especially at small auctions in the province, where prices are lower), but almost always works is dead and very well-known artists.