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Старый 29.01.2010, 12:32 Язык оригинала: Русский       #81
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And again we return to the main question of what artists do gallery, especially if you plan overseas exhibitions.
Do we have the seeds of something new that could develop into a new direction, if not entirely different from the international, but at least it for in-equal?
Here's an interesting thought as well. Erofeev on this topic:
A. EROFEEV: Yes, not only in the restructuring, too, we had such a short time when power in the order of remorse for its past cultural policy was to support the actual artists. Well, now it's all over again. Ie We had several such short periods, when really in the era's thaw was a short period to 62 years, until the defeat of the exhibition at the Manege also supported. Hence, there is one Russian art, is art, which is accepted in the world, but who does not like Russia. Is the second Russian art, which is loved in Russia, but which absolutely ignores the international community. Because it is such characters as, who is stilted romantic Aivazovsky. How Shishkin, naturalist. Oh I'm not talking about the entire socialist realism, about the entire academic school, which we support here, does collect, and the West just is not art, it's just a nonsense. This is something of a commonplace.
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I think that we are too fixated on these national and zest need to move on to another roll, this time without zest. Simply, in my opinion, we must return to the understanding that art, above all, this is a common human activity and discusses the problems she is not a national identity, and some deeper problems. Of course, this does not exclude any specific national. But this is not the main thing in art. And we now believe that as an athlete in sport represents the country, as well as an artist necessarily represent the country. In this sense, of course, we have a problem. Ie our art is becoming more and more regionally focused. It is less and less responsible for that general perspective, which is discussed in the world. This ecological disaster, for example, or any man-made challenges, dangers, or any totalitarian threats that exist, or terrorism, or disease. We did not find in our art today, even the very best. Because all tailored to the power of its discourse, its idiotic design, rhetorical art which begin to expose or ridicule, and to blunt our man in the street, our mass culture, ie our art is working, arguing and fighting with their own context ...
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Because the 19 century - it's interesting, not interesting, but it is, in general, a local phenomenon. Our vanguard of the early 20 th century, which is the same as the icons, a recognized phenomenon, the world ...



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Старый 29.01.2010, 12:34 Язык оригинала: Русский       #82
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You know you can buy, I am for this like all the artists work, the case in prices.
Paul. Do not speak for all artists. But I can say for sure - the higher the level of the artist, the less he thinks when he writes of how much it can sell? (Such an approach, more suitable word - vtyuhat).



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Старый 29.01.2010, 12:56 Язык оригинала: Русский       #83
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B. .. and she discusses the problem is not national identity, and some deeper problems. Of course, this does not exclude any specific national. But this is not the main thing in art. And we now believe that as an athlete in sport represents the country and the artist is necessarily country ...
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Because the 19 century - it's interesting, not interesting, but it is, in general, a local phenomenon (in Russian art, KS.). Our vanguard of the early 20 th century, which is the same as iconography, a recognized phenomenon, the world ...
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19 century was the century of nations - that is why the Russian national was adequate to its time and it was up to the challenges facing the arts in general: national express. Socialist realism by the way, too. And now, another time, of course ...

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It is less and less responsible for that general perspective, which is discussed in the world. This ecological disaster, for example, or any man-made challenges, dangers, or any totalitarian threats that exist, or terrorism, or disease. We did not find in our art today, even the very best.
Well, what he says, this Eroffev? Personally, I gift do not need art, corresponding to
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... environmental disasters, for example, or any man-made challenges, dangers, or any totalitarian threats that exist, or terrorism, or disease.
There are other institutions, funds, etc., propaganda, for example, or MOE.



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Старый 29.01.2010, 13:01 Язык оригинала: Русский       #84
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Here's an interesting thought A. Erofeev on this subject:

Yes, not only in the restructuring, too, we had such a short time when power in the order of remorse for its past cultural policy was to support the actual artists. Well, now it is again all
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ended. Ie We had several such short periods, when really in the era's thaw was a short period to 62 years, until the defeat of the exhibition at the Manege also supported. Hence, there is one Russian art, is art, which is accepted in the world, but who does not like Russia. Is the second Russian art, which is loved in Russia, but which absolutely ignores the international community. Because it is such characters as, who is stilted romantic Aivazovsky. How Shishkin, naturalist. Oh I'm not talking about the entire socialist realism, about the entire academic school, which we support here, does collect, and the West just is not art, it's just a nonsense. This is something of a commonplace.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I think that we are too fixated on these national and zest need to move on to another roll, this time without zest. Simply, in my opinion, we must return to the understanding that art, above all, this is a common human activity and discusses the problems she is not a national identity, and some deeper problems. Of course, this does not exclude any specific national. But this is not the main thing in art. And we now believe that as an athlete in sport represents the country, as well as an artist necessarily represent the country. In this sense, of course, we have a problem. Ie our art is becoming more and more regionally focused. It is less and less responsible for that general perspective, which is discussed in the world. This ecological disaster, for example, or any man-made challenges, dangers, or any totalitarian threats that exist, or terrorism, or disease. We did not find in our art today, even the very best. Because all tailored to the power of its discourse, its idiotic design, rhetorical art which begin to expose or ridicule, and to blunt our man in the street, our mass culture, ie our art is working, arguing and fighting with their own context ...
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Because the 19 century - it's interesting, not interesting, but it is, in general, a local phenomenon (in Russian art, KS.). Our vanguard of the early 20 th century, which is the same as iconography, a recognized phenomenon, the world ...

Stupidity kakayato not related to the case. Who knows who said what.



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Старый 29.01.2010, 13:14 Язык оригинала: Русский       #85
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Here's an interesting thought A. Erofeev on this subject:

Yes, not only in the restructuring, too, we had such a short time when power in the order of remorse for its past cultural policy was to support the actual artists. Well, now it is again all
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ended. Ie We had several such short periods, when really in the era's thaw was a short period to 62 years, until the defeat of the exhibition at the Manege also supported. Hence, there is one Russian art, is art, which is accepted in the world, but who does not like Russia. Is the second Russian art, which is loved in Russia, but which absolutely ignores the international community. Because it is such characters as, who is stilted romantic Aivazovsky. How Shishkin, naturalist. Oh I'm not talking about the entire socialist realism, about the entire academic school, which we support here, does collect, and the West just is not art, it's just a nonsense. This is something of a commonplace.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I think that we are too fixated on these national and zest need to move on to another roll, this time without zest. Simply, in my opinion, we must return to the understanding that art, above all, this is a common human activity and discusses the problems she is not a national identity, and some deeper problems. Of course, this does not exclude any specific national. But this is not the main thing in art. And we now believe that as an athlete in sport represents the country, as well as an artist necessarily represent the country. In this sense, of course, we have a problem. Ie our art is becoming more and more regionally focused. It is less and less responsible for that general perspective, which is discussed in the world. This ecological disaster, for example, or any man-made challenges, dangers, or any totalitarian threats that exist, or terrorism, or disease. We did not find in our art today, even the very best. Because all tailored to the power of its discourse, its idiotic design, rhetorical art which begin to expose or ridicule, and to blunt our man in the street, our mass culture, ie our art is working, arguing and fighting with their own context ...
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Because the 19 century - it's interesting, not interesting, but it is, in general, a local phenomenon (in Russian art, KS.). Our vanguard of the early 20 th century, which is the same as iconography, a recognized phenomenon, the world ...

Cyril and where the interview, or when it was given - before or after the dismissal of the State Tretyakov Gallery?



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Старый 29.01.2010, 13:17 Язык оригинала: Русский       #86
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Personally, I do not have the gift of art, corresponding to
... terrorism or disease?
AIDS or Sept. 11 gave the topic and gave rise to great lengths to look through different eyes.
Artists and concern about this. No?
I understand that there are health, anti-terrorist centers.
Some do not talk about something ...



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Here's an interesting thought A. Erofeev on this subject:

I think that we are too fixated on these national and zest need to move on to another roll, this time without zest. Simply, in my opinion, we must return to the understanding that art, above all, this is a common human activity and discusses the problems she is not a national identity, and some deeper problems. Of course, this does not exclude any specific national. But this is not the main thing in art.
This is not the main thing in art, but I think the art of great artists are always nationally. When these traits can be expressed both directly and indirectly. The problem lies elsewhere. Just the artists are forced to sit on two chairs. Or go by hook or by crook. Until there is support for the idea of the state, foundations and individuals, nothing will change.
Particularly dramatic fate of art in the regions. So I think that once these unfavorable forecasts for the idea of regional galleries - this is strange. The idea of the noble. Consciousness suddenly and immediately not change. And any activity over time brings results.
 Even if the stupid every day to sit and sharpen the black and white pencil on the number of their good deeds and sins, and by the end of life will be as thoughtful.
And the activities of the gallery in our environment is still and always contribute to the development of culture.
Where did they take, the artists with a sense of responsibility for world problems, if not the cultural environment in which to grow and develop? We have a couple of years ago, quite seriously rumors that roam the top of the idea that it was time to close the department of painting and graphics, as well as their zero profit proizvodstvu.K Fortunately, further speculation is not gone.



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Cyril, and where the interview, or when it was given - before or after the dismissal of the State Tretyakov Gallery?
This, he said three weeks ago at the EM: http://www.echo.msk.ru/programs/figure/645180-echo/

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And the activities of the gallery in our environment is still and always contribute to the development of culture.
Yes, of course, and as the events in Haiti, the culture is more important than many other things.
But perhaps the most important thing at all.

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In the regions are working to create new galleries and even museums of modern art. I am here just now talked about the initiative of one of the new president of Russia to establish a museum of modern art.




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The middle class is not clever inventions and unfair to say the least people
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Elite is a select, those most qualitative, rather than something that belongs to the elite. The elite usually dump rubbish with a few exceptions
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cheap Kochestvennoe not happen. Quality is something that everyone needs, and therefore price rostet, and hence expensive, but how to determine the price? Only obschedostuppnyh bid. All closed Ypres. "elite" event just a way to extract money from suckers
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Creativity is a bit more complicated than building a house and sell the apartments
Pavel, thanks laughed



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Yes, of course, and as the events in Haiti, the culture is more important than many other things.
But perhaps the most important thing at all. Be a grown-up noticeably and beautifully !!!
Frankly, if viewed through the prism of time, the question moot.



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