Is it possible to create and develop the art market without kommodifikatsii art?

[AlexanderG]

Davaite razmyshliat '.

Na dannom etape Rossiiskii art rynok nahoditsia v faze razvitiia.
Davaite podumaem, cto sostavliaet art rynok, chto nuzno razvivat ', kakie momenty neobhodimo uchityvat', chto nuzno delat 'dlia ego razvitiia.

'Rossiiskii' - ia upotrebil, kak samyi bol'shoi na post sovetskom prostranstve. Tema imeet otnoshenie ko vsem stranam byvshego SSSR.

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Prostaia shema art rynka (rassmatrivaem v dannom sluchae fine art i skul'pturu):

Proizvoditeli - hudozniki, skul'ptory.

Distrib'iutory (kommercheskie) - galerei, salony, auktsiony, dekoratory.

Marketing - musei, publichnye galerei, kritiki, art istoriki, kuratory, pressa.

Potrebiteli - publika, kompanii, muzei.

Podderzivaiuschie sistemy - fabriki i zavody (kraski, holsty, itd), uchebnye zavedeniia, pechatnaia produktsiia itd.

V dannoi sheme ia predlagaiu iskliuchit 'prodazi za rubez i porazmyslit' o razvitii sobstvennogo rynka.

[Posav]

And who will be producing?. The artist is not the working class. It does not fit into this scheme.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Posav

And who will be producing?. The artist is not the working class. It does not fit into this scheme.

V sisteme rynochnyh otnoshenii hudoznik iavliaetsia proizvoditelem.
A pochemu, na vash vzgliad, hudoznik ne vpisyvaetsia?

Proizvoditel ', eto ne obiazatel'no rabochii klass. Naprimer intellektual'nyi tovar.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

V sisteme rynochnyh otnoshenii hudoznik iavliaetsia proizvoditelem.

Sure is.
He made a thing, painted a picture made it to the light of God, so to speak, and the word "work" from the same series.

[artcol]

It is certainly possible to build such a model. Moreover, I put it into practice voproizvel, and it worked pretty well.
But I came to the conclusion that in this case is more important than sales and marketing, and therefore need to be addressed first and foremost it. There is a demand - will offer!

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от artcol

You can certainly build such a model.

Schitaiu, chto eto sovershenno neobhodimo, bolee togo eto privediot k uluchsheniiu vneshih otnoshenii.

Moreover, I put it into practice voproizvel, and it worked pretty well.

Chto slomalos'?

But I came to the conclusion that in this case is more important than sales and marketing, and therefore need to be addressed first and foremost it. There is a demand - and the proposal will be!

Dumaiu, chto spros nado razvivat '. Tovara dostatochno.
A sprashivat 'to, o, chiom neizvestno, nevozmozno.

Ved 'spros ne rozdaet predlozenie.

[SAH]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Dumaiu, chto spros nado razvivat

I agree, to create "a situation".

[artcol]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Dumaiu, chto spros nado razvivat '. Tovara dostatochno.
A sprashivat 'to, o, chiom neizvestno, nevozmozno.

Ved 'spros ne rozdaet predlozenie.

All doubt, except the last sentence.
And add: the art market in Russia is possible only as part of the World. Other options - viable.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от SAH

I agree, to create "a situation".

Chto mozete sdelat '?

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Сообщение от artcol

All doubt, except the last sentence.
Pochemu?

And add: the art market in Russia is possible only as part of the World. Other options - are not viable.

Sovershenno soglasen, no mozno byt 'polnopravnym chlenom, a mozno i. ...
Poetomu schitaiu, chto sobstvennyi razvitoi art rynok neobhodim.

[artcol]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Poetomu schitaiu, chto sobstvennyi razvitoi art rynok neobhodim.

Course necessary. For the art of Oceania and Africa would also be good to have their own internal national market