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Старый 16.01.2010, 23:13 Язык оригинала: Русский       #71
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... I have a budget for a total 20000rub.
The budget for the meeting or to buy?



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Старый 16.01.2010, 23:23 Язык оригинала: Русский       #72
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The budget for the meeting or to buy?
Meeting, it is not a lady, artist
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he 90 years



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Старый 16.01.2010, 23:49 Язык оригинала: Русский       #73
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Meeting, it is not a lady, the artist
Well this amount, it is better to clarify.

By the way, wonder if the man in 90 years, still works. May God grant him as much again!



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Старый 17.01.2010, 11:13 Язык оригинала: Русский       #74
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Never invite gallery owners to his studio \\ intuitive rejection of the visit \\ read the opinion here forumchan, convinced of the correctness of his attitude to this. They will start to look into the refrigerator \\ and then packed delicacies \\ assess the brand of my car, etc. ... to assess how low you can "delete" the artist if he is not the best time ....
Still very much alive in our stereotypes about the poor and the genius of the artist as the most profitable investment purchase "Now I understand fear and neodumenie Russian gallerists when it comes to the obviously wealthy artist, and for some reason they say to each other that perhaps her husband rich Tosca and boredom



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Старый 17.01.2010, 11:39 Язык оригинала: Русский       #75
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If every artist had to sell through art dealer, then he would have had to adjust to this dealer. First, he says, write no trees, and roses. Then, and political preferences, see, creep out. This Smer real art, but art business like nothing. Such a scheme with intermediaries and resellers rather appropriate at the antiques market.



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Старый 17.01.2010, 12:07 Язык оригинала: Русский       #76
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Oooh! Even as lezhit.Posmotrite for example http://www.ural-collection.ru/
The site abandoned long ago, many are not delivered. Konstantinov, for example, all the heritage-280 works Muharkin in the 700, Gorelov 150 and td.A graphics simply collections. (With Cheluskinskiy races in different years)
In France, Drouot often sell so-called workshops. After his death the widow or heirs to sell all that was in the studio. including furniture. All sketches and studies, tools, etc. The auction moves on until all the cities will not sell. What are artifacts? Ktoby Pizarro refused to have a chair or a Matisse. Well, let's say a simpler yet unknown artist? Or easel Van Dongen, but if you can afford. But the artist is unknown today, and tomorrow ...
So smart people in all times and collected collections. We also try someone unwind, to find the very best work when we should strive to collect more and earlier to put into circulation, rather than wait when the artist would die, but rather as soon as possible.
Because we are all smart and savvy traders trade no. The people he likes to choose and buy Narova cheaper to sell more expensive is the ground for the growth of prices.

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If every artist had to sell through art dealer, then he would have had to adjust to this dealer. First, he says, write no trees, and roses. Then, and political preferences, see, creep out. This Smer real art, but art business like nothing. Such a scheme with intermediaries and resellers more appropriate on the antiques market.
It is death and for trade. That is why our auctions are breathing incense and afraid to show prices. Art is the best means of investment, because the prices rostut, and all.
Seryy.Sleduyuschy not just sell the car, and invite him to an apartment, make a table with a bottle, put the work that you want to sell, talk, wait until all the drink and only if a firm voice stated price is approximately two times higher than he wanted. then you sbrsit bit. I do not drink.




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Старый 17.01.2010, 12:20 Язык оригинала: Русский       #77
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Paul, there are also buyers, with Pontius, who want beautiful drive up to the gallery, take a picture on the recommendation of gallery owners /Qi especially without bargaining (so that was nice). They go into a dirty artist's studio or a flat "no style". These donated paintings often are then stored in garages. Here Yarmolnik show on TV a garage and mentioned that he had stored there ... and donated paintings.



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Старый 17.01.2010, 12:24 Язык оригинала: Русский       #78
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Russia is a country of paradoxes and extremes Artdillery and gallery owners condescending and sometimes disdainfully refer to the artists while kotmyatsya their work, as officials and diputaty called people-cattle
To devalue the work of the artist's need to convince him that he had talent, now his work is worth pennies?? Here's to you and all the rituals

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Paul! a textbook example of a bottle! What kind Suomeksi may be a hangover! Then on the return is better not to negotiate




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Старый 17.01.2010, 12:38 Язык оригинала: Русский       #79
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In France, at Drouot often sell so-called workshops. After his death the widow or heirs to sell all that was in the studio. including furniture. All sketches and studies, tools, etc. The auction moves on until all the cities will not sell. What are artifacts? Ktoby Pizarro refused to have a chair or a Matisse. Well, let's say a simpler yet unknown artist? Or easel Van Dongen, but if you can afford. But the artist is unknown today, and tomorrow ...
So smart people in all times and collected collections. We also try someone unwind, to find the very best work when we should strive to collect more and earlier to put into circulation, rather than wait when the artist would die, but rather as soon as possible.
Because we are all smart and savvy traders trade no. The people he likes to choose and buy Narova cheaper to sell more expensive is the ground for the growth of prices.

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It is death and for trade. That is why our auctions are breathing incense and afraid to show prices. Art is the best means of investment, because the prices rostut, and all.
Paul, I'm looking at you - and yet you are as ready art dealer! It's time to have to move from theorizing to practice! Examples of such weight!

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Seryy.Sleduyuschy not just sell the car, and invite him to an apartment, make a table with a bottle, put the work that you want to sell, talk, wait until all the drink and only if a firm voice declared the price at about twice higher than he wanted. then you sbrsit bit. I do not drink.
And slipped into the bottle to h-n? On the other hand you are right: the atmosphere of the holiday should be, were present when buying art.

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And (demshizu and potstreotov Flooding please do not post my message). As long as Russia will agree to be a raw materials appendage of the West, colonized the country, has lost suverinetet (mental, financial, informational) - no investments in art, Drouot, and so on. would not be here. For the binding of free money, there are other tools - have little money and a lot of tools, and art with its low lividnostyu will remain a pleasant pastime. As for the collectors, and for artists.




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Старый 17.01.2010, 14:31 Язык оригинала: Русский       #80
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Paul, I'm looking at you - and yet you are as ready art dealer! It's time to have to move from theorizing to practice! Examples of such weight!


And slipped into the bottle to h-n? On the other hand you are right: the atmosphere of the holiday should be, were present when buying art.

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And (demshizu and potstreotov Flooding please do not post my message). As long as Russia will agree to be a raw materials appendage of the West, colonized the country, has lost suverinetet (mental, financial, informational) - no investments in art, Drouot, and so on. would not be here. For the binding of free money, there are other tools - have little money and a lot of tools, and art with its low lividnostyu will remain a pleasant pastime. As for the collectors, and for artists.
Incorrect view. Art-the most reliable means of attachment. Just nobody believes it because they all bring down high prices of Western art, but the first Soviet art already in the Western collections and is recognized as a style, and secondly no one in the west is not interested in selling the Soviet and create a competitor.
In order to raise the price of our auctions have to make the people believe in accessibility and independence of these auctions. You buy something for a million, and when you want to sell it, bail out their money and make someone you do not give the picture he does not like that you'll have the money and not share with him ... all, the end of auction. Therefore, to auction he worked on must be protected by the State, which receives taxes from activities and sales.



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