Degenerate Art? Art of degenerates!

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Сообщение от Pavel

It's "free repetitions and kompelyatsii."

Said Pavel, the most original and original artist of our time.

[Fed]

Сообщение от Pavel

And that all this rubbish in the Tretyakov Gallery?

   The historical value is also important theoretically.

[Jasmin]

Сообщение от Fed

The historical value is also important theoretically.

 both theoretically and in no way ... History and politics far-fetched, as always, to replace the concept .... The fact of the matter is that we are talking about the original artists, really talented, edgy ... That is envy, hissing and gnashing of teeth: artistic value of their work, rather than historical

[Богатиков]

It seems to me that you are not stupid people. All the more unpleasant to watch, as you are doing small nagging, pulling from the text of two or three words. I was always interested in people like you. I can not understand - do you really admire "masterpieces", which themselves at leisure can spawn in great abundance. How do you not understand that these "creators" just laugh at you. Read what he said about his admirers Andy Warhol. The most talented, in my opinion, from the "pop artists" Salvador Dali said: "The world is full of cretins, so I'm rich."

[Сергеич]

do you really admire "masterpieces", which themselves at leisure can spawn in great abundance.

A fresh argument.
Why should someone make a call? If so just do yourself and show us at least one masterpiece.

The most talented, in my opinion, from the "pop artists" Salvador Dali said: "The world is full of cretins, so I'm rich."

So did all the talent? And what difference does it say? Celebrities and geniuses often have a "difficult" characters.

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Сообщение от Bogatikov

Bogatikov

It is not you?

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Bogatikov

Just make a reservation - I am not a critic, not an artist, I am, so to speak, the ordinary consumer. Just tired of passively watch as gubitsya our art. For example, in Moscow recently completed work of another costly act, held under the auspices of the Ministry of Culture and the Government of the City - The Moscow Biennale of Contemporary Art. Even a cursory glance - there are, as always, some "masterpieces". Example canvas Paul Pappershteyna "American whale and the black box. What is shown is difficult to tell, but to make a copy of the picture of primary school children, armed with a ruler, compass and be able to paint for half an hour. Or take the creation of a J. Shonibare "How to demolish two heads at once, in the form of two mannequins without heads, objective market each other with pistols. Similar creations fill that has already become a regular exhibition "Expression of the spirit." Similar examples can result in a long time. And, all this intensely vparivaetsya us as the last word in art. Not for nothing did the elite of our country have long and rightly concerned about not only the fall of morals, but profanation of art

Dear Comrade. Bogatikov, awake no longer 1962 ...
On the visit of the first Secretary of the CPSU Nikita Khrushchev in the Manege Exhibition December 1, 1962. year remained a lot of memories.
Smart thinking main kommunyaki country Khrushchev ...

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..... Some paintings thin. Falk.
Khrushchev .- Here I would like to ask if they are married or not married and if married, you would like to ask my wife and they live or not?
This is - a perversion, it is not normal.
Anyway, I am Chairman of the Council of Ministers, the penny would not give, but who will take money for this rubbish, that will be punished, and the press will not support.
Incidentally, a group of artists wrote a letter to me, and I reacted very vigorously. And when he looked at the facts on that link, I would not support them.
They said that's "Week" were, say, pictures, and I saw these pictures - nothing "terrible" is not there. So my opinion is, its fuel is sufficient, and I throw on it is not necessary.
I would, for instance, said people who are attracted to all kinds of daubs, not draw, do not create pictures, and just smear them: you, gentlemen, you say that we probably are not mature enough to understand your art. No, we, our people understand what is good and bad.
And if these, if I may say "artists" who do not want to work for the people and with the people will be willing to go abroad to his ideological brethren, let them ask permission to leave, the same day will receive a passport and let them deployed to give them the freedom to "free" states, and let them there at least on their heads walk.
But we have for the time being is "creativity" is considered improper, we will delay the policeman.
Or about jazz music. Some jazz performed such that a normal person can not hear. And this is called music.
I wear a pocket radio Japanese, sometimes I listen to it - listen to music.
And then suddenly you hear jazz, it catches me as when there are abdominal cramps. What kind of music? At first I thought it was interference. No, they say, is music.
I am surprised Shostakovich. We are pleased and unpleasant to do, when he invited us to the final concert, and gave it a trio, that Sodom is not very pleasant to hear.
Maybe I showed liberalism - I idly suggested, because they look the same. (Animation). Then it is butchered that all were delighted. And what marvel? After all, these dances - indecent dancing. They say that this is new. This is not new, it is from blacks. Look Negro dances and the U.S. - the same twisting a certain place.
And that, say, dancing, What is dance? Confound it! There was a woman Kogan - a remarkable woman, and so she once put it, when looked at these dances: 20 years married and did not know that this is the foxtrot. (Animation).
I apologize, women, for these words.
When the Americans came, I said to them: it gave you negros. Take our Cuban friends, they dance - it is also from blacks. But they say: this is new. Pah, the devil! This is indecent. Take the Russian dance - I do not know, maybe I russak and I like it, but take the Uzbek dances, Turkmen, Tajik, Georgian. This - Dance ...
They say that it is not freedom. But if they will print a Communist, so stifle artists. There are, of course, and such artists Communists, like Picasso. But I have here an alliance with Eden. When I was in England, Eden asked me: how do you think of this sculpture (we were there at a show)?
- I do not understand.
- I do not understand.
- And how to Picasso?
- And I do not understand.
Then, said correctly. (Animation).
Not a penny of public funds will not allow. At this point I, as Chairman of the Council of Ministers, taking all the trouble on themselves. Encourage the actual art.
And this - the art, when painting wrote a donkey, when he will fly bite, and the more it its bite, so it creates a "difficult work".
But some seem to have been ashamed of what we do, maybe not mature enough? Let's go to hell! Immature, what to do!
Let history judge us, and meanwhile we put forward the story, so we will do what is good for our people and for the development of art.
Here he wound ... Here I was in America, saw the picture - a woman drawn.
I say: My God, what a father, what mother gave birth, so why not show respect, why is the foolishness?
How many there are homosexuals, so it is a deviation from the norm. So this is - homosexuals in the arts.
Do not dry "talents" and we are ready to give them permission to leave our state. Why turn off, if this talent? Let history will judge.

During the inspection of satirical drawings of the artist Reshetnikov.
Khrushchev .- Similarly, it is work. That, said Lemon. So this is my baby ... smeared.
VOICE. Reshetnikov told - the author of this work, here recently about his work that took place a physical fight.
- You see, as he admires the Arts.

In the hall of the works of young artists and sculptors. Some pictures of "Geology".
Khrushchev .- This is who paid for? That's the one and let him pay the money, but I will not pay; public money we pay will not. Let people write and let them be sold, but not at public expense.
VOICE. What is bad? Can not even criticize these things, literally impossible to criticize - whistling noise.
Khrushchev .- It is necessary to restore order. What we have here with this daubs go into communism? Here it is mobilizing spiritual forces people to exploit? Here's this? This is very serious, this defeat, of course, and the Ministry of Culture, because those who claimed the jury.

VOICE. This picture is not purchased.
Khrushchev .- I wonder who ordered, because the one who ordered, even if he pays, he shall faithfully fulfill the obligations. Let him hang himself on the neck.
Artwork should inspire people, it needs to elevate, inspire heroism of war, labor. And what's this? That pulls the donkey ass, stretching as in the days of old doomed to death.
But this picture? What they drink or what they do? - Do not understand. It is wrong, comrades. The government has no right to be amorphous, it should be a definite policy for the people. They say it is wrong to judge. But not for us to judge. For the time being the people we hold, we will carry out the policies that the people support.
Comrade Il'ichev is, of course, poor performance of the CC, poor performance of the ideological commission, a bad job of the Ministry of Culture, as if printing supports - help me to find concrete facts.

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Сообщение от Eugene

is, of course, poor performance of the CC, poor performance of the ideological commission; a bad work of the Ministry of Culture

Words that can be heard today, and even zdesb.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Veronic

Surgeon-conceptualist. I wonder who would have him go to the party?

Abstract medicine ....

Nu pochemu ze, igloukalyvanie, hillery i prochee. I nichego, hodiat

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[Тютчев]

At the Berlin construction site found "degenerate art"

Builders who worked at a construction site in Berlin, not far from City Hall, accidentally discovered the works of art, reports Associated Press referring to the Prussian Cultural Heritage Foundation. 11 pieces, mostly - bronze statues were discovered a month ago, when the construction site began to dig.
Apparently, the Nazis, these works have branded as "degenerate art." The works were to be destroyed, but for unknown reasons, while it did not happen. Among the found - sculptures by Otto Baum, Edwin Sharffa and Otto Freundlich. Three items have not been able to attribute. Tuesday, November 9, found items will be put on public display.

"Degenerative" Nazi propaganda called virtually all modern art: the artistic avant-garde and modernism seemed anti-German Nazi Party leaders, the Jewish-Bolshevik and izvraschencheskimi. In 1937, samples of "degenerate art" were gathered together at the accusatory exhibition, which followed four years of traveling through many cities in Germany. On the cover of the exhibition catalog was depicted sculpture by Otto Freundlich "new man".

http://www.lenta.ru/news/2010/11/08/artwork/