Degenerate Art? Art of degenerates!

[Nedogonov]

OpenSpace made a survey of the enemies of the Russian people:
What do you think about the "march against degenerate art»?

http://www.openspace.ru/art/projects...and=yes#expand

[SergeiSK]

Сообщение от Nedogonov

"Offended" responded quickly

I will quote some passages from an interview OpenSpace. They are upside down, but also very revealing:
Andrei Erofeev, curator:
"Belyaev-Gintovt must suffer punishment in the form of monetary fines. To pay a million rubles each insulting. I personally have a million in very handy. Belyaev And - what?" Nonsense, he is his picture in the imperial style still sells and at such prices. "
(Someone long before Erofeeva shouted: "Give millionchik !")
Anatoly Osmolovsky, artist:
"I sat myself to Belyaev in his gallery, counting would be" intolerable "hard-earned dollars - maybe he would have his hand and serve. But Belyaev fancies himself a serious artist. For example, Clement Greenberg, he could read himself:" The average artist is bad when attracting too much attention "."
(I wonder - what the artist himself considers himself Osmolovskii? Surely a genius.)
First Lady Tar, curator:
"And we all need to understand: gently caress now Belyaeva - means all dirty.
Ostensibly this my text, I also do PR Belyaev, and, therefore, better to keep silent, and Belyaev doing PR all four of us, so we are really happy.
A Belyaev - that Belyaev? Me he just uninteresting.
We do not want to hang noodles on the ears: those who Belyaeva exhibits and sells (Emelyan Zakharov Dmitry Hankin), those who voted for him on the Kandinsky Prize (Alexander Borovsky and Catherine Bobrinskaya, apart from foreign experts, who may not all figured out), those who buy it (here the list even longer), shared his beliefs (and the fact that this belief, and not ironic game, he has long been proved). And if it is not so - let them say it. These marshes, as today, are only possible with the support of all the above. "
(Q - can tarnish listening and reading Tar?)
Marat Gelman
"Here everything is fine: we are their enemies.
When I meet with Dugin, saying he usually "Well, how are you, fighting with me?", And he always winks and says: "But we're both postmodernists. That is all as it is not really.
It seems to me important in this situation do not pay attention to the fact that so terrible and bloodthirsty Eurasians, but the fact that we are on the front. "
(All right, no comment)

[OTROK NIKODIM]

Nedogonov,
Thanks for the link. I think that the ladies and gentlemen listed in this article, ie Erofeev, TAR, Gelman and Osmolovskii employed several other processes, but not art. Perhaps from this and become confused with the concepts. They used the term "Degenerate Art", but rather it would say "Degenerate something." It is better to express the existence of time, because appealing to the collective unconsciousness, as our current favorite artists and curators.

[tivoli]

Seems Hirst prishol logical end, perhaps unwisely V. Pinchuk do was bet on him.

[Богатиков]

Just make a reservation - I am not a critic, not an artist, I am, so to speak, the average consumer. Just tired of passively watch as gubitsya our art. For example, in Moscow recently completed work of another costly act, held under the auspices of the Ministry of Culture and the Government of the City - The Moscow Biennale of Contemporary Art. Even a cursory glance - there are, as always, some "masterpieces". Example canvas Paul Pappershteyna "American whale and the black box. What is shown is difficult to tell, but to make a copy of the picture of primary school children, armed with a ruler, compass and be able to paint for half an hour. Or take the creation of a J. Shonibare "How to demolish two heads at once, in the form of two mannequins without heads, objective market each other with pistols. Similar creations fill that has already become a regular exhibition "Expression of the spirit." Similar examples can result in a long time. And, all this intensely vparivaetsya us as the last word in art. Not for nothing did the elite of our country have long and rightly concerned about not only the fall of morals, but profanation of art. I mean not promoted zvezdulek and inflated cheeks officials, which we strongly imposed as elite. I'm talking about people that make up the elite of our culture, such as A. Konchalovsky, V. Moskvina, D. Likhachev, Glazunov, the same Mikhalkov, please forgive me, many others not mentioned by me. Speak without a microphone with visitors to these exhibitions and you will understand that this concerned not only our intellectual pastors, but most of the adult population. It does not take much intelligence to see that our book shelves and showrooms, television and stage, in spite of the emerging individual masterpieces, littered low quality crafts, "razvlekuhoy.

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Ray Bradbury, wrote: "Most books with pictures. More movies. A food for thought less and less. Not better or worse, is the case, and in fine arts. It is no secret that television and the press for modern painting and sculpture is meant only more perverse, more and more disgusting variation of avant-garde. As if we did not have and there is Konstantin Vasilyev, Ilya Glazunov, Alexander Shilov and others. Sculpture, in general, is replaced by a monstrous invention of the charlatans of art - installation. At the same Moscow Biennale exhibited a formless heap of rubbish the French creator of Boris Ashura called "Operation Restoring Poetry. What? Peripherals are not far behind. In Krasnoyarsk, a local "artist" Tishkov hung sheets on the ropes between the trees. This exhibit was displayed in the local Biennale. However, homeless people, apparently out of love for art, stolen artifacts, together with ropes and pegs. Perverted people! And we pretend that we nravitsya.Chto we are savages, to be bought on the cheap beads? Undoubtedly, this is largely due to the direct transfer of the foreign culture on our soil, being introduced this culture without any critical thinking, regardless of our traditions, rudely and aggressively. If so accepted "throughout the civilized" world, and what are we - the worse? Thank you, gentlemen, that opened our eyes to our homespun nature. It turns out that there was not at last set with nothing standing, let alone the Soviet period - is quite the failure of culture. However, objected to me, the whole history of nations - is cross-fertilization and interpenetration of cultures, their synthesis. One can not we live in isolation from the rest of the world. I agree, really, people, culture, withdrawn into themselves facing the inevitable degeneration. Tom gave a history of quite a few examples. Self-isolation, no sane person can not support. But then, on the other hand, neither of which mutual enrichment in our country and almost no speech. There is a clear dominance of western culture and disregard for his own. At the dump trying to throw something, I would say great, that accumulated in the art of our distinguished predecessors. Imitation and affectation becomes the norm. In the "elite" was adopted rule - the classical art and folk traditions - the last century. Even the festivals of "country", ie folk song meant only modernized songs rehash of English-speaking countries. The notorious figure Shvydkoi exhibited at the Biennale abroad on behalf of the Ministry of Culture of Russia and the Tretyakov Gallery naked Gay! See, gentlemen, we also do not bast soup slurp! And how many of you have seen reports on television about our exhibitions are still numerous, talented, but working in the traditional manner of artists? In other words, the country is gaining momentum process, which is suspiciously reminiscent of a violent destruction of the conquistadors cultural values of Native Americans. For expediency of modern mass media, corruption of their leadership and the acquiescence of those in power, we can, over time, be in the position of Indian manufacturing industry souvenirs and performing dances "antique" the joy and fun of the same descendants of the conquistadors. I repeat, I am not in any way for the "Iron Curtain". We have already tried this. But whether you want to mindlessly copy what is proving to be just a fraud and a sign of degeneracy. That degeneration, because, in my opinion, only art, and especially painting, are the harbinger of social cataclysms, litmus paper, Detection of - at passionarnym rise or decline, is society.
This is most clearly be seen in the fine arts. What we now proposed in the form of the masterpieces of world art? It's Pablo Picasso and Henri Matisse, Chagall and Kandinsky, and, finally, Andy Warhol and Malevich, as the apotheosis of the profanation of art. I do not want to mention the many smaller "creators". parasites in the field of artistic creativity. Do not reveal the truth if I say that all "-isms" of art raised to shield greedy owners of the galleries and auctions in conjunction with corrupt critics. Their "new views" on the painting were picked up and replicated to the greedy for profit and sensationalism of newspapers and magazines, and in the future and other media. Why this was not possible during Davinchi and Renoir? There are many reasons, but chief among them - is that the media have not yet achieved that power over the minds of people, which they reached in the twentieth century. As a result, virtually the entire intellectual elite of Western countries began to be afraid to speak his true opinion about the avant-garde. Well, let them there himself portrayed violent admiration debris on the pedestal and "installations" of all the laughing at them Warhol. It is now in Europe and America, almost every adult, afraid of being branded as "reactionary neprodvinutym" in a hurry to pay their respects to the empty beer cans and messy stain on the sheet. Moreover, this fear is to recognize "the nakedness of the king" violently forced upon the world. Is this not one of the reasons an increasingly strong anti-globalization movement? So we have "helluva lot of advanced" decided that it's no good us abreast of "best in Europe", and we need to have a black square and other rat on a tray. And all this gang started strongly impress credulous people that abomination beautiful. So many of us dutifully pretend to admire the antics of rogues, praise them, afraid to admit that the emperor has no clothes. Criticize "modern art" was simply mauvais ton. And is not that what lies one of the many reasons to strengthen Islamic hostility to the Western world. Apparently these "evil fundamentalists" simply not afraid to admit the obvious, personally seeing clear signs of degradation, of duplicity, lies and blatant disregard for people's opinion and his own church.
I have argued and will argue that the degradation of art precedes the degradation of society and vice versa - the flowering of art ahead of the socio-economic progress. Why, then, you say, decadence and other "-isms" have arisen precisely in the early 20 century? After all, when capitalism was still "on the rise? And because the signs of degeneration of fine art arose just as the heralds of the coming collapse of Western civilization, the first, but fairly obvious, evidence of which we are beginning to see just now. Russian avant-garde, too, began its zenith, when the society, aptly, was only "pregnant with revolution". And such examples are legion numbers. Open the history of ancient Rome. When you read books on the history of fine arts in Rome, it is not difficult to see what else, it would seem, during his heyday there are signs of some degradation of paintings. Of course, modern art historians do not write about it directly. They write that in the painting appeared first tendencies or elements of impressionism. And what are they but the degradation? Or take another example. No deaths preceded by Byzantine iconoclasm - struggle with, almost the only art school at that time. Experienced, impartial art will find that even a lot of examples. On the other hand, the flourishing of art, as we have already noted, preceded by the progress of the public. Vivid confirmation of this - that in the era of the dark Middle Ages, when capitalism was still only just being born, going through, so to speak, "prenatal period, the stage came the Renaissance. How accurately described this period, the historian L. Gumilev: "A brilliant revival against the backdrop of universal degeneration." Renaissance, which was a forerunner of the coming era heyday of bourgeois relations. Repeat - this could be reinforced and the other examples, but I did not set out to write a scholarly work. I just wanted to say that the long pent up.
Fortunately, according to SM Solovieva: ".. there is nothing in the history does not end suddenly, and nothing starts suddenly, and the new begins at a time when the old continued." What is still encouraging - is that the majority of our people still do not bite on this bait rotten West, the expansion only affects part of the intelligentsia and the "elite". Here should have their say, our culture and leading figures of this intellectual elite. Naturally, no real political leadership here will not do. Therefore, the campaign for real aesthetics must begin not only from the bottom, with the younger generation, but the top - with the political elite. If we took all the very best of world development, global culture, not blindly copying the West will find its own path of development, only then we can have a future. Otherwise, clinging to the wreckage of Western civilization, are doomed to perish with it. Meanwhile, the magazines - both wrote the same Bradbury - turned into a kind of vanilla syrup, and books - in sweetened swill. And the longer it takes, the less hope remains on a favorable outcome.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Bogatikov

notorious figure Shvydkoi exhibited at the Biennale abroad on behalf of the Ministry of Culture of Russia and the Tretyakov Gallery naked Gay!

Yes?
I've never seen ...
Do not show? Or give the link. Very interesting ... You may distinguish them as-"Gay", not "homosexual"? Share the recipe, please.

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Сообщение от Bogatikov

Here must have their say, our culture and leading figures of this intellectual elite.

Who? Addresses, names, appearance, ...

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Сообщение от Bogatikov

It's Pablo Picasso and Henri Matisse, Chagall and Kandinsky, and, finally, Andy Warhol and Malevich, as the apotheosis of the profanation of art.

This is something else.
You go to the Tretyakov Gallery on the Crimean shaft in the hall 32.
And what we see in the main Russian national gallery?
Rabin, Nemukhin, Spindler, Shvartsman, Steinberg, Plavinsky, Weisberg ... Enumerate as hang on the walls.

[SAH]

Сообщение от Bogatikov

When you read books on the history of fine arts in Rome, it is not difficult to see what else, it would seem, during his heyday is already showing signs of some degradation of painting . Of course, modern art historians do not write about it directly. They write that in painting appeared the first trend or elements of impressionism. And what is this if not degradation?

Bogatikov, an interesting observation, comparison, are you up to?

[Allena]

I was not left feeling that it is not written here and now, and that this sort of article.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Bogatikov

If we took all the very best of world development, global culture, not blindly copying the West will find its own path of development, only then we can have a future.

On appeal to raise Russia's car industry seems.
There already delved down, too, all trying to find "the way of development" ...

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Сообщение от Bogatikov

In other clinging to the wreckage of Western civilization, are doomed to perish with it.

The date of death do not know by chance?

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Сообщение от Bogatikov

Of course, without real political leadership here will not do. Therefore, the campaign for real aesthetics must begin not only from the bottom, with the younger generation, but the top - with the political elite.

Wow! That class so class!
Fighting leaf 2nd company in Ensk /h in May 1981-year rest.
"Hike" is sacred!
  If it's war,
    If tomorrow the campaign --
Be ready for a hike today! (c)

But I am afraid that this "campaign" will end like the previous ones:
Malbruk a campaign going,
ate cabbage.
In a campaign ... Miranda Miranda Miranda ... (c)

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[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Yes?
I've never seen ...
Do not show? Or give the link. Very interesting ... You may distinguish them as-"Gay", not "homosexual"? Share the recipe, please.

Added after 3 minutes

Who? Addresses, names, appearance, ...

Added after 8 minutes

This is something else.
You go to the Tretyakov Gallery on the Crimean shaft in the hall 32.
And what we see in the main Russian national gallery?
Rabin, Nemukhin, Spindler, Shvartsman, Steinberg, Plavinsky, Weisberg ... Enumerate as hang on the walls.
Displaying all of the Tretyakov Gallery.

And that all this rubbish in the Tretyakov Gallery? It's "free repetitions and kompelyatsii."