Andrew and Olga Dugin - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Yaya · 12-08-2009, 10:38

gans, yes, different. But the books with his illustrations, in my opinion, the most remarkable. Large sum of money to pay for them completely sorry

gans · 12-08-2009, 10:43

What is really there .. http://www.ababahalamaha.com.ua/uk/Головна_сторінка

Yaya · 12-08-2009, 11:03

Interestingly, this company publishes tales in "authentic" version. For example, in "Snow Queen" (as it turned out!) Is the episode when Gerda seeking Kaya during a snowstorm. The girl, in despair, kneels and reads "Our Father ...", then there are the angels who protect it. Soviet censorship is, of course, to edit. You can not be instilled in children that prayer helps! Therefore, those who are familiar with the tale of a Soviet books /cartoons, did not know all the details of adventures Gerda: p

Vladimir · 12-08-2009, 11:09

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Originally Posted by Yaya

Gerd seeking Kaya during a snowstorm. The girl, in despair, kneels and reads "Our Father ...",

Not bad. Is it true? And other tales of Andersen also podvegalis censorship? If you know, tell us about these episodes. Interesting.

Yaya · 12-08-2009, 11:30

Vladimir, other examples I not known yet, but I think that all the tales were censored.

Cyril Syzransky,

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with the other "actors" theater Karabas fly on the ship-sea-sailing in the country of the Soviets, there is even the Kremlin's towers are visible.

tin!

gans · 12-08-2009, 11:44

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Originally Posted by Yaya

tin!

I have a disc "Pinocchio," there is also at the end someone says: "but as the name of this beautiful country?" And he replied: "USSR". : D

Кирилл Сызранский · 12-08-2009, 11:49

gans, yes, yes: " Far, far, far away there is a country ... tram-pam-pa ..." somehow. "Where are the children of something they happy ..." , etc.

Черномашенцев Владимир · 12-08-2009, 12:09

Alas, interesting books Ukrainian publishing houses in Russia hardly supplied. Except for mass commercial publications of the same type Coelho. I do not argue, illustrations are good, but collectively, this book does not pull on a masterpiece of printing.

Politika.Politika ....

In 2008 in September in Moscow, VVC (VDNH) held the International Book Fair. In that year the chief guest of the exhibition was Ukraine. The organizers even went to the unusual move, giving instead of the usual concrete and glass pavilion for the exposition of the old Soviet pavilion "Ukraine", made in the style of Stalinist architecture and richly decorated.

Читать дальше...

Perhaps I can quite professionally to talk about books, as fond of collecting rare and interesting books published today. Do not confuse them with the gift assortment for the "new Russian" in the skin and gold. A full-fledged co-writer of this book stands illustrator. It is desirable that the illustrations were commissioned by the contemporary artist and printed. Mass repetitions and reprints of old pictures masterpiece of printing can not be considered. In Russia there are hundreds of publishers - and only a few of them make a decent and interesting products.

Book Exposition of Ukraine "striking":

1) Many books in Ukrainian. I doubt that it was interesting to visitors and potential buyers in Moscow.
2) There are many historical books on the "new history of Ukraine": Mazepa, Hetman, Bandera, Shushkevich ....
3) I could find only one book worthy of purchase as an interesting example of printing - Gogol. But ... he asked for a high price (about 7000 rubles, about $ 280), which does not correspond to its level. I decided that the money I'll buy a few books as good as other publishers (eg, Vita Nova, SP-B).
4) Price-based criteria also unpleasantly astonished. I looked thin. album of the Kiev Museum of Russian Art. Sorry, I can be wrong a little bit with the title, because I am writing from memory. But he asked for from 10 to 12 thousand rubles. (about 400-500 dollars), which does not fit into the retail stores prices for albums museums level Hermitage, the Prado, the Louvre, the Uffizi ... which retail price of USD 2500-3000. (100 VE).
Besides, the exhibition, many publishers offer special prices. So, I brought more than 60 kg. thin. albums, almanacs Russian Museum (SP-B) at prices ranging from 100 to 800 rubles.!

It was frankly boring. People no longer be considered the dark interiors of the Stalinist or pavilion argued the photo-exhibition, which occupied half of the book exhibition. But the same Bendera, genocide and famine, modern photography pensioners Bendera and SS-ovtsev against the background of the monuments of the same - not the best option for the book exhibition.

A solid and brutal policies. This is hardly benefited from Ukraine.
It is better to see once again the Soviet "Pinocchio."

Allena · 12-08-2009, 15:20

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Originally Posted by Vladimir

And the other Andersen's fairy tales, too podvegalis censorship?

Even as the subject! And censorship of anti-religious. In the 90 years of Andersen's fairy tales published book - softcover, almost on newsprint, in a pink cover with some Belen'kiy pattern. There was a wonderful translation, and full, without the censor cuts. The amazing beauty of fairy tales, not those to which we are accustomed to from childhood. But alas, the book gave a reading to someone ... 's All. Who - do not remember.

Кирилл Сызранский · 12-08-2009, 11:24

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Originally Posted by Yaya

Soviet censorship is, of course, to edit. You can not be instilled in children that prayer helps! Therefore, those who are familiar with the tale of a Soviet books /cartoons, did not know all the details of adventures Gerda

And I remember the old Soviet another B /W film 59-year "Pinocchio" There's an end of the film Pinocchio opened a secret door behind a painted fireplace in a closet Pope Carlo and with the other "actors' theater Karabas fly away on a ship-sea-sailing to the country Soviets, there is even the Kremlin's towers are visible. : D

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Originally Posted by Vladimir

And the other Andersen's fairy tales, too podvegalis censorship?

Yes, almost everything. Previously remembered all "cut" pieces, about all the "necessary" transfers, but now I do not remember.

12-08-2009, 12:09	Original language: Russian #8
Черномашенцев Владимир Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Россия, Москва Posts: 875 Thanks: 1,092 Thanked 1,380 Times in 500 Posts Blog Entries: 12 Reputation: 2190	Ukraine - the chief guest at MKVYA in 2008. Alas, interesting books Ukrainian publishing houses in Russia hardly supplied. Except for mass commercial publications of the same type Coelho. I do not argue, illustrations are good, but collectively, this book does not pull on a masterpiece of printing. Politika.Politika .... In 2008 in September in Moscow, VVC (VDNH) held the International Book Fair. In that year the chief guest of the exhibition was Ukraine. The organizers even went to the unusual move, giving instead of the usual concrete and glass pavilion for the exposition of the old Soviet pavilion "Ukraine", made in the style of Stalinist architecture and richly decorated. Читать дальше... Perhaps I can quite professionally to talk about books, as fond of collecting rare and interesting books published today. Do not confuse them with the gift assortment for the "new Russian" in the skin and gold. A full-fledged co-writer of this book stands illustrator. It is desirable that the illustrations were commissioned by the contemporary artist and printed. Mass repetitions and reprints of old pictures masterpiece of printing can not be considered. In Russia there are hundreds of publishers - and only a few of them make a decent and interesting products. Book Exposition of Ukraine "striking": 1) Many books in Ukrainian. I doubt that it was interesting to visitors and potential buyers in Moscow. 2) There are many historical books on the "new history of Ukraine": Mazepa, Hetman, Bandera, Shushkevich .... 3) I could find only one book worthy of purchase as an interesting example of printing - Gogol. But ... he asked for a high price (about 7000 rubles, about $ 280), which does not correspond to its level. I decided that the money I'll buy a few books as good as other publishers (eg, Vita Nova, SP-B). 4) Price-based criteria also unpleasantly astonished. I looked thin. album of the Kiev Museum of Russian Art. Sorry, I can be wrong a little bit with the title, because I am writing from memory. But he asked for from 10 to 12 thousand rubles. (about 400-500 dollars), which does not fit into the retail stores prices for albums museums level Hermitage, the Prado, the Louvre, the Uffizi ... which retail price of USD 2500-3000. (100 VE). Besides, the exhibition, many publishers offer special prices. So, I brought more than 60 kg. thin. albums, almanacs Russian Museum (SP-B) at prices ranging from 100 to 800 rubles.! It was frankly boring. People no longer be considered the dark interiors of the Stalinist or pavilion argued the photo-exhibition, which occupied half of the book exhibition. But the same Bendera, genocide and famine, modern photography pensioners Bendera and SS-ovtsev against the background of the monuments of the same - not the best option for the book exhibition. A solid and brutal policies. This is hardly benefited from Ukraine. It is better to see once again the Soviet "Pinocchio."

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12-08-2009, 10:38	Original language: Russian #1
Yaya Гуру Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Киев Posts: 1,514 Thanks: 891 Thanked 1,308 Times in 415 Posts Reputation: 7048	gans, yes, different. But the books with his illustrations, in my opinion, the most remarkable. Large sum of money to pay for them completely sorry

12-08-2009, 10:43	Original language: Russian #2
gans Гуру Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,264 Thanks: 1,961 Thanked 3,561 Times in 765 Posts Blog Entries: 30 Reputation: 4950	What is really there .. http://www.ababahalamaha.com.ua/uk/Головна_сторінка

12-08-2009, 11:03	Original language: Russian #3
Yaya Гуру Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Киев Posts: 1,514 Thanks: 891 Thanked 1,308 Times in 415 Posts Reputation: 7048	Interestingly, this company publishes tales in "authentic" version. For example, in "Snow Queen" (as it turned out!) Is the episode when Gerda seeking Kaya during a snowstorm. The girl, in despair, kneels and reads "Our Father ...", then there are the angels who protect it. Soviet censorship is, of course, to edit. You can not be instilled in children that prayer helps! Therefore, those who are familiar with the tale of a Soviet books /cartoons, did not know all the details of adventures Gerda: p

12-08-2009, 11:49	Original language: Russian #7
Кирилл Сызранский Гуру Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: РФ, Самара Posts: 75,449 Thanks: 27,871 Thanked 55,339 Times in 24,289 Posts Blog Entries: 126 Reputation: 102399	gans, yes, yes: " Far, far, far away there is a country ... tram-pam-pa ..." somehow. "Where are the children of something they happy ..." , etc.