How to unleash the artist (paper)

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

I always thought the opposite-price auctions below gallery-...

This is a seeker so stated. What do you think why?

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

I always thought the opposite-price auctions of gallery below ...

: confused: Prices in the galleries always involve bargaining down, and at auctions - trading up. And the price in the gallery - the price in the market or slightly below, and at auction - higher than market.

[Veronic]

Сообщение от Buscador

: confused: Prices in the galleries always involve bargaining down, and at auctions - trading up. And the price in the gallery - the price in the market or slightly below, and at auction - higher than market.

By the way, questions ....
1.Vsegda whether at auction prices rise? Or set drop?
2, if now no one bought, it means that it removed from the auction or make an attempt to sell cheaper?
3.How to the amount the seller receives a percentage, how much the auction? And what happens to the payment to the owner, if the painting was sold Garazd more of the claimed estimate?

If these questions have been discussed before, please let the link.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Veronic

By the way, questions ....
1.Vsegda whether at auction prices rise? Or set drop?
2, if now no one bought, it means that it removed from the auction or make an attempt to sell cheaper?
3.How to the amount the seller receives a percentage, how much the auction? And what happens to the payment to the owner, if the painting was sold Garazd more of the claimed estimate?

If these questions have been discussed before, please let the link.

I think that this mechanism should be studied.

[Veronic]

Сообщение от Pavel

I think that this mechanism must be studied.

I think that the forum is probably people who know. Here only will they share information?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Veronic

1.Vsegda whether at auction prices rise? Or set drop?

There are different kinds of auctions.

Сообщение от Veronic

2, if now no one bought, it means that it removed from the auction or make an attempt to sell cheaper?

At various auctions in different ways, but usually deliverer takes the picture.

Сообщение от Veronic

3.How the amount the seller receives a percentage, how much the auction?

Interest in different auctions are different. And with the seller and the buyer. And the price of care even depends%.

Сообщение от Veronic

And what happens to the payment to the owner, if the painting was sold Garazd more of the claimed estimate?

Nothing happens, the price of leaving the auction takes his rest%seller-deliverer.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Veronic

and I think that the forum is probably people who know. Here only will they share information?

No I am not knowledgeable, but curious.
In the film 12stulev there is a scene from the auction. At the final price of the auction rate is applied.
At an auction item exhibits as a part of Commissioner-winner or appraiser. This is a very experienced man. He knows in advance what things are hit and is interested in raising prices, because they determine his salary. So things that can not pass on the estimate or he tries to withdraw or agree in advance with the owners. Often he buys a lot. This side is interested in raising prices. In the sitting room gallery owners components Clack. These people often have orders from their customers. For example, some millionaire collector commissioned to buy for him Lansky certain period, faster than Rubens, Matisse or for 43mil. Gallery owners find Rubens at the auction and starts for him to bargain. Other traders saw the interest of his and inferior to him, someone rests and the price reaches 40-42mln and gallery owners to buy this thing. His earnings from 1 to 1.5 mil. In the event that someone will continue to bargain the price will soar to incredible heights, as occurs with the Russian sales. As the gallery owners are buying at auction, then selling, they add their income above the price of the auction and hence the price in the gallery is always higher than auction. This is written on the front pages Acuna.
If you want to buy something at auction deystvute through intermediaries. A Commissioner-winners or horoshovam familiar large gallery owners. This will cost you less.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

: D

Сообщение от Veronic

but I think that the forum is probably people who know. Here only will they share information?

It is no secret, no, go to the website themselves of any auction house and everything is there, all the rules of conduct, relationships with customers, vendors and customers.
Nothing secret, I assure you ... : D: D: D

[Veronic]

Kirill, I was looking for this information, but nothing concrete has been found.
The fact that you told me about what I guessed.
But all the same ... for example if the painting was exhibited for $ 1000. and sold for 40,000 dollars. Surely, the seller simply receives a fixed percentage of sales? For such a price increase is fully merit of the auction. The buyer also agree on the original price.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Veronic, there is a specified minimum, is the starting price is estimate (often lower and upper). But the owner of the exhibited items is becoming less agreed earlier%.

Сообщение от Veronic

if the painting was exhibited for $ 1000. and sold for 40,000 dollars. Surely, the seller simply receives a fixed percentage of sales? For such a price increase is fully merit of the auction.

A picture of the owner believes that the auction does not do anything, the picture was so good that such lift from the start is not enough. : D