Degenerate Art? Art of degenerates!

[Nedogonov]

With admiration read quoted a respected Art-lover 'th product of "How to talk to children about art." http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=28525

Thank you! At the same time I saw (on the list "odobryantov" at the bottom of post), if not thoughtful people can relate to what is read. Inspire them to be any heresy. The threshold of criticality - zero point, zero-tenths.

In fact, such articles are designed to fracture and destroy the psyche of the poor kids, to inculcate in them imunodefitsit against degenerative art. This is a kind of "needle", which "Internationale incompetence" wants to plant the young.

Let us consider another "masterpiece».

«Artist's shit" (Italian: Merda d'artista) - a work of art by the Italian artist Piero Manzoni.

This is a work of art? And what there to watch?

Yes, of course, a work of art - not quite normal. Many artists choose to everyday life instead of something more interesting and attractive - and then we see the magnificent scenery, ceremonial portraits, scenes of fantastic creatures (dragons, etc.). And sometimes the artist prefers to simply NASR ... Price per jar.

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What does this work?

Nothing definite. However, she encourages the viewer to think about the intentions of the artist. Suppose he did not want to portray ready, finished things, but decided to hide them. It's like a game, when put in a jar that wanted ...

Perhaps the artist could not draw, sculpt really?

Most likely, that he could not! But this is not the main thing - he was looking for something else. Slowly he removed from his works all that seemed superfluous and unnecessary. At some point, he filled a jar of th ... r - and the result is quite satisfied the artist.

Manzoni used his g ... but?

Quite possibly. This is strictly tuned, carefully thought-out product. And use other people's r ... on strongly would spoil the effect of his perception.

Why, Mr. ... but?

Because of all known materials is Mr. Manzoni ... but possesses the most powerful and repulsive odor. Manzoni hoped that the use of r ... on to make the viewer the most powerful.


But there is also a jar ...

You can not use g ... but not putting it somewhere or into something. Manzoni used a revolutionary technique: Mr. ... but hiding in a jar, he hid it from the viewer, leaving only to imagine the color, smell and texture, Mr. ... on ... But really, lick and sniff Mr. ... but no one can. This is the main plot.


It appears that Mr. ... but replaces Manzoni and pattern, and shape, and color, and composition?

For Mr. Manzoni ... but - everything! This is the end product of all human life, in which all thoughts, feelings, aspirations and experiences of the artist represented in the form of its quintessence. This genius and innovation of Manzoni.


The product is similar to conventional canning jar

This is usually the bank of conventional canning, which if desired can be eaten. By Manzoni, art in general - the embodiment of pragmatic, intelligent design and stability.

Perhaps this is a replica of a work by Warhol?

It is quite possible: imagine a lot of such bottles, and we gained a cult product of E. Warhol - advertisements of tomato soup, Campbell.


Maybe, and Black Square by Malevich ?...

Perhaps it is also true. After all, as Malevich's square does not contain anything other than black paint, and "Bank of muck artist" does not contain anything other than the dermis. This world of the artist once felt like his.

All banks Manzoni similar to each other

Yes, indeed. All banks with muck Manzoni almost indistinguishable from each other, but this is only apparent monotony. I strongly differ from each other soldiers in the ranks? But upon closer examination, it turns out that they are all different and each different moms and dads.

Nasr ... Price per jar snap

Yes, perhaps, from a technical point of view it is not so difficult. Sat down - and shat in a jar. But there is another, higher level of complexity associated with meaning. Imitate foreign fashion Manzoni - one, but put yourself in the place of the artist, back in his time, through what he experienced - quite another. Manzoni spent many years trying to develop his own style in g. ... And today, when we look at it, Mr. ... but we must not forget that in this piece, so deceptively simple in form, is a whole set of ideas, thoughts and aspirations that led to its creation. It is no exaggeration to say that this work life.

How do I sell such masterpieces?

Sell them was not easy. Gov ... WIDE jars Manzoni did not enjoy great demand: for lovers of intellectual art was little. Nevertheless, Manzoni stubbornly went his own way: the only way he could express himself to the end. In May 1961 Manzoni posted their own feces in 90 numbered tin cans (30 grams each), and wrote on them "Artist's shit" in four languages. In subsequent years jars found in many art collections, with major awards around the world. There are reports that later some of them exploded (probably due to corrosion and pressure built up in these gases). May 23, 2007 a copy was sold for 124 000 euros at auction Sotheby's.

Manzoni's ideas have penetrated into our present life!

G. .. but Manzoni had an impact not only on the next generation of artists, but also to architects and designers of later periods. Now, fifty years after the first jar with the city. Nom, this influence is evident everywhere: in the interiors and furniture, book and magazine graphics, advertising, fashion. His g. .. but carried a certain moral intransigence, equilibrium, house-proud, multiple versions copyrights scheiß tracks indicate the indefatigable artistic quest. Ideas Manzoni absorbed imperceptibly, at the subconscious level. Along with the formal features of his city .. on to the future buyer implicitly act as ethical and aesthetic principles of the artist. In the effectiveness of these funds easier to believe if their advertising is all what's so appealing work Manzoni: the self and the boundless freedom of combinations, tastes, colors, smells ...

For particularly critical: sometimes my posts are a joke

Sincerely, Dr. Nedogonov

[Yaya]

Nedogonov, I confess, always thought that I would have nothing to thank you for this forum. I was wrong
and who by?

[Art-lover]

Сообщение от Nedogonov

In fact, such articles are designed to fracture and destroy the psyche of the poor kids, to inculcate in them imunodefitsit against degenerative art. This is a kind of "needle", which "Internationale incompetence" wants to plant the young.
...
Let us consider another "masterpiece".

"Artist's shit" (Italian: Merda d'artista) - a work of art by the Italian artist Piero Manzoni.

This is a work of art? And what there to watch?

Yes, of course, a work of art - not quite normal. Many artists choose to everyday life instead of something more interesting and attractive - and then we see the magnificent scenery, ceremonial portraits, scenes of fantastic creatures (dragons, etc.). And sometimes the artist prefers to simply NASR ... Price per jar.

Back in 1961m, when a young Soviet boy Yura asserted the superiority of socialism in space orbits, his 28-year-old Italian Piero struggled coeval with capitalism in his own way: selling bourgeois at the price of gold organic content, 90 numbered in canning jars. The meaning of his actions did not conceal the artist: "All these Milanese bourgeois pigs just like shit. In this way the artist postebalsya over evil "connoisseurs" for which the main criterion of art - the price of the product. "

It is difficult to say which of these guys did more damage to the bourgeoisie, but so far in terms of historical justice, Gagarin was more lucky: at least he (still?) Is caught in clutches of our main degeneratoru, spices to feces and fighter for the moral art in combination .

Who will be the next victim of the battle of morality, do not undertake to guess. Enemies - the darkness. One only carriers of corrupting anecdotes about Petka and Chapaya On how!

You can not double-enter the same river - no proof of Heraclitus argued. You can enter as many times in the same shit if it is your own! - Experimentally proves Dr. Nedogonov. We wish him continued good luck in his thumb and strained case. : D:

[SAH]

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It is difficult to say which of these guys did more damage to the bourgeoisie, but so far in terms of historical justice Gagarin had better luck: at least, he (still?) Is not caught in the paw our main degeneratoru, spices to feces and fighter for the moral art in combination.

This is precisely stated

[dedulya37]

Art-lover, in the subject:

- Well, Danila-master, as you go stone flower?
- With trudooooom!

[Mark]

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Gagarin had better luck: at least, he (still?) Is not pleased at our feet Chief degeneratoru, spices to feces and fighter for the moral art in combination.

You can enter as many times in the same shit if it is your own! - Experimentally proves Dr. Nedogonov. We wish him continued good luck in his thumb and strained case.

Chestono you're a little disappointed I art-lover. I have read many of your comments here - what=it agrees with some not, but reading is not always been useless. This коменте you are obviously cheap. Where to end arguments, they begin insults. Yes, and put Yuri Gagarin in a row with controversial Manzoni is not very appropriate, and Somewhere insulting not only have to Nedogonova. For me, Gagarin symbol of another is not so well-fed can be life, but the heroic and selfless. A Mndzoni as not cool and will remain a clown, not more. Why in the last sentence you write from everyone - "we wish him ..."? Type the class teacher in the school for the EO. Personally, I agree with you completely disagree. flew kudato gloss on the whole and the individual transition - style bazaar.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Mark, but just sick of it already:

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And sometimes the artist prefers to simply NASR ... Price per jar.

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the use of other people's r ... on strongly would spoil the effect of his perception.

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r ... on the use of make on the viewer the most powerful effect.

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After all, as Malevich's square does not contain anything other than black paint, and "Bank of muck artist" does not contain anything other than the dermis.

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Nasr ... Price per jar snap

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we look at it, Mr. ... but,

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Its g. .. but

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but Manzoni G. ..

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used his r ... but

And so on ...
How many can?

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Why in the last sentence you write from everyone - "we wish him ..."?

And because many will subscribe for this desire, I think.
Mark, you are under the impression that writing

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kaknitt

: D: D: D

[Mark]

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And so on ...
How many can?

express their "FE"! different ways you can. in a particular case Nedogonov is prettier in my opinion did, than art wellness fitness. less anger, more humor, no insults in private address. Here problem syumorom?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Mark, about the humor did not say.
Some people like to "sold out and" You're funny "with the Comedy Club and matyugami, and somebody-Zhvanetsky and Kartsev with Ilchenko ...

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Nedogonov is prettier in my opinion made

Yes, very funny: "g. ..", "muck" and "NASR ... Th ...
Obhahocheshsya ... : D: D: D

[Сергеич]

I join. It's time to stop it, the opinion heard, well, enough.
And even more so to compare the square of Malevich and ... in a jar - more than strange. Confirmation that once you think of Malevich's square is a masterpiece of modern stupidity and strange (and nasty) you like - is not true. And the answer to such distortion of already bored.