Degenerate Art? Art of degenerates!

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Сообщение от Nedogonov

I think that the rude people and the bacillus was actively proliferate at the time (or near the time), when sounded phrase "degenerate art". And flew it to the topic with my keyboard, what, and expressed regret so far.

The fact that the concept of "degenerate art" was a result of processes is quite natural and logical, nominalizirovano, and then tightly tied to its meaning, to the destructive activities of the Nazis. Own is the meaning of the term with lost.

In essence, the term became taboo and people are already on a subconscious level, trying to push him away and "ban", using any means available, even foul language. On the original meaning of the term no longer remember.

This phenomenon is and his own inside. Everything that is designed to protect degenrativnoe art - green street. Same dared cast their vote for its rejection as soon possible to label the Nazis, fascists, hruschevista, putinista, Nashi, etc., etc., pr ... This is the stumbling block.

In this, as I think you're right. And as if you have not rearranged the words - "CI" or "ID" - it is still referring to the historical terminology ... And therefore, if you are trying to identify some new trends of modern "art", albeit unpleasant neither you nor many others, is not it better to use more neutral terms, not a priori cause of protest enlightened minority?

[SAH]

Сообщение от Yan

or to the Manneken Pis from Ukraine.

Jana esteemed enjoyed reading you, And who is the Manneken Pis, will tell me more, I do not know.

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Сообщение от SAH

And who is the Manneken Pis, will tell me more, I do not know.

This is a "killer" argument Veronic in a dispute about the actual art.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...p;postcount=31

[SAH]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

This is a "killer" argument Veronic in a dispute of contemporary art.

Gotcha. Well this is our Ukrainian, the other is a true bronze worth writing about himself and nothing: rolleyes:

[яня]

About Pandora's box of interesting. Even so the whole theme of luxury has evolved a bit further.
Yet it seems to me that is not in the twentieth century it was discovered. Those listed above, perhaps the children compared with their predecessors, they only helped to pull different difference from that mailbox.
And open another one.
On the one hand these (well, not everything, of course):

[яня]

On the other hand are (also not all, of course, yes they do, and more):

[SergeiSK]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Quote:
Note from Semen Semenovich
Zhukov - a military leader, accepted strategy for all the leading military experts of the world.

Loud said. You know that in the military academies of the world are studying the operation under his leadership? What?

Loudly say that you are an art historian with a red diploma. But here everything correctly stated. You should have to prove the obvious? Go to ventilate, spring in the yard, the girls Poglazov, drink of beer, the sun pogrom. But it soon became a hero of computer games.

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Сообщение от SergeiSK

Go to ventilate, spring in the yard, the girls Poglazov, drink of beer, the sun pogrom.

Thank you.
So advise?
In the street, look at the village, --
Girls are walking, and I'm happy. (c)

[mezon]

Сообщение от Nedogonov

Look at the beautiful art on the one hand it is quite logical if we talk about art, how about some process (or a result of this process) whose purpose is - the rise of man and his approach to God.

Look at art (or life, person) with one, even beautiful, hand - this is not divine.

"What a chimera is a person, a center of controversy, what a monster! Judge of all things - and at the same time, the earth worm, a witness of truth - and at the same time sink of ignorance and misconceptions, the pride of the universe - and at the same time last scum "Pascal

"How is it possible from the separation and discord, of the dispute, hatred and war to establish harmony, peace and love? Christ Himself is the living answer to this question, as he himself - the living harmony of opposites. He Himself is the world. So understood him up. Paul: "He is our peace, who made both one and has broken down the dividing wall, by abolishing the enmity ... for to make in himself one new man, making peace" ... It is both the antithesis to "reconcile" ... "through the cross, killing hostility to him "In this up. Paul sees the meaning of the Christian doctrine: the destruction of hostility in a world of universal harmony." And he came and preached peace to you "evil and sin is anthological rift, the rift in the cosmos and microcosm of the world and man, and man is called to ensure that this contention overcome. Christ has shown how this is possible and this possibility realized. Christ is the true coincidence of opposites. "Vysheslavtsev Ethics transfigured eros"

As you all is simple: top-bottom. Let us remove the "bottom" and will be peace throughout the world. Peace is achieved not by the destruction onogo, and through harmonization of relations of opposites. Any dissonance is the birth of harmony. The principle of the harmony of opposites is recognized as the gospel for the inner world, as well as for external social. In the Gospel "anarchy of the passions" is opposed to harmony, which is contained in the wisdom, justice and meaning in the world. So the motion to God - this is not just a way to beautiful, but much deeper, is the attainment of harmony, peace of opposites in themselves and outside. The same should go through the art-found harmony of opposites within himself.

[Nedogonov]

Сообщение от mezon

The principle of the harmony of opposites is recognized as the gospel for the inner world, as well as for external social. In the Gospel "anarchy of the passions" is opposed to ...

You would even be ashamed, mezon, wheeze this dump here. And here the Gospel, and here is the Christ? How can we reconcile the Savior with Satan? Why did you quote are undertaking something not read it?

This "web intelligence" has already got here on the site. Pull these "wise men from the wall outlet - sduyutsya instantly. And you are in the same company?

There's a "real intellectual", quoting heretical "passes" the emigrant Boris Groys, it's just shutspoy not call. But he, unlike you, "the material". Sometimes it seems that he and Groys - one and the same person: D

Keep it simple, mezon, and people strive for you. Suvazheniem, Dr. Nedogonov