Degenerate Art? Art of degenerates!

[mezon]

Сообщение от Mark

if the laws of nature were such that society has long been Zdorovenky would

The nature of society is such that it is healthy only survive, but society where 90%of necrophilia and kaprofagov doomed to extinction. In general, if something you want to say about it tell me.

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Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

But you must understand that all this is paid promotions. And will he go to get-togethers and, perhaps, in the Duma will sit next to Zhirinovsky. And there will bark and jump on people. But what there is wide public resonance. It's all for a narrow circle of "troubled world." They also need something to make fun ...

You are absolutely right that without money there can not do. Appreciated not art, but how many paid for it. And this art can not be massive. It is elite because of the nature of a purse. It dominates the art of making money and not care about the ideals of humanity.

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от mezon

And this art can not be massive. It is elite because of the nature of a purse. It dominates the art of making money and not care about the ideals of humanity.

You know, do not want to call these acts - art. All art is - in itself should be fine. Only the highest edge of creativity can claim to be art. Of course you can say: the art of making money. Yet here a somewhat different shade of meaning.

[mezon]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

You know, do not want to call these acts - art. All art is - in itself should be fine. Only the highest edge of creativity can claim to be art. Of course you can say: the art of making money. Yet here a somewhat different shade of meaning.

I talked about how that goal in contemporary art - money. But when discussing art, its goals and objectives and that it has top and bottom, we would like to hear what is meant by art. There is, for example, thought that art should teach the beautiful, for example, that you can build a skillful negative things in a way that they will lead to an understanding of what really is the highest distinction of creativity. And the art itself in the broadest sense of the word is, then that creates a man and what does not exist. And what do you mean by art?

[Yaya]

Сообщение от mezon

But when discussing art, its goals and objectives and that it is up and down

mezon, he still has the right and left

[mezon]

Сообщение от Yaya

mezon, he still has the right and left

So I would like to talk about what is meant by art, and then discuss whether he has the right and left. And what do you mean by art?

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Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

Man created the plant, which his dirty pipe foul nature. What is art.

  So give its definition. I want to understand what is involved and what do you mean by the art of saying that it should be fine. What is it? And more talk about the plant.

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от mezon

I want to understand what is it

In fact, here it is a degenerative. And his concept of art I have already given above. for me - is the highest distinction of creativity, based on professionalism. Examples:
music - Tchaikovsky, Paganini ...; Painting - Renoir, Serov ...; theater - E. Evstigneev, EV Mironov ...; film - Tarkovsky, S. Bondarchuk, etc.
Also is the art of games - Zidane (football), Barbakaru (maps), O'Neal (basketball )....
Also Suvorov, Zhukov (the art of warfare ).... Well, in that spirit ...

[ФЕОФАН МУХИН]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

And also Suvorov, Zhukov (the art of warfare )....

leadership talent Suvorov primarily manifested in his careful treatment of soldatam.Polnaya victory over nepriyatilem with minimal human and material losses - that is the military genius of Suvorov, Ushakova.
Therefore, to equate them with Zhukova, even given the scale of hostilities, to put it mildly - is not correct.

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Mukhin ФЕОФАН

So, to equate them with Zhukova, even given the scale of hostilities, to put it mildly - is not correct.

I can not be equaled, as well as Tchaikovsky and Paganini, or Tarkovsky and Bondarchuk. Compare all of them do not correctly. I just gave an example of people who turn their profession into art. Zhukov - including.

[ФЕОФАН МУХИН]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

Zhukov - including.

At the forum site dedicated to Russian art market certainly ought not to discuss things and events not directly related to the art. However, once they started talking about the Soviet military leader Zhukov - the best large-scale example of a conscious disregard for the life of the soldier's commander, in recent history net.Bezgramotnost, stupidity, willful decision Zhukova paid hundreds of thousands of shattered lives ....
History does not know the subjunctive mood. But a sober assessment is needed. Otherwise - Afghan adventure, the Chechen war, bullying ....
I apologize for the care of the topics ...
Sincerely, Nicholas.

[Mark]

Сообщение от Mukhin ФЕОФАН

History does not know the subjunctive mood. But a sober assessment is needed. Otherwise - Afghan adventure, the Chechen war, bullying ....

flood thick ... Semen Semenovich expressed his opinion, thank him for that. You have another - you too, thank you. Do not agree - on the merits will object instead and flooding. The idea was in fact clear - art only skill and professionalism is generated. A political information do not need anyone. I noticed there's a lot more versed in politics than in art.