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Старый 19.05.2013, 21:06 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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I politely asked (sorry, I deleted the message, if it is someone you can restore the preserved) you do not participate in this thread is then your message.

Because I think the indiscriminate criticism "only" is not productive. Yes, base kombinatovskie /design works - it's awful (by the way, this is what many call "social realism"), but there were masterovitye artists with great mastery of the technique of painting, with its peculiar aesthetics and time dt and etc. ... and one size fits all - do not agree.
Your request did not interfere, because I did not understand the question (almost literally) has emerged as a response to this post is not, and after it's where I just answered your question. http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...01&postcount=6 Therefore also caused confusion not only for me.

If you wrote that you disagree with me, I would not say a word.

And not everyone with the same brush. Art of the late USSR was happening in front of me and I know very well as who and how many received these orders, and prices even remember now (I thought - there is still only remember some on the painting).
By the way, I am not now criticize, and even then beginning, my first article was published in 1982 and since then has regularly published and censored, and then they were not laudatory, so why would I now is the art of praise. <! - ~ 7 ~ ->




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Старый 19.05.2013, 21:22 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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Your request not to interfere , because I did not understand the question (almost literally ) was introduced as a response not to the message, and then that's it, where I just answered your question . http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...01&postcount=6
Do not want to enter into a showdown , but for the sake of truth, I am now going to ask the Administrator to recover my deleted message in its entirety and in the same place .

I would like to note that the post to which you refer has been changed by you and the phrase , "I knew. " ... about the " pointillism ", etc. initially it was not!

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Therefore caused confusion not only for me .
Does anyone still perplexed ?

Oh , you have me in retaliation " for bad behavior " spasibki of the first post to remove <! - ~ 9 ~ -> . I cry <! - ~ 12 ~ -> .




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Старый 19.05.2013, 21:41 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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Do not want to enter into a showdown , but for the sake of truth, I am now going to ask the Administrator to recover my deleted message in its entirety and in the same place .

I would like to note that the post to which you refer has been changed by you and the phrase , "I knew. " ... about the " pointillism ", etc. initially it was not!

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Oh , you have me in retaliation " for bad behavior " spasibki of the first post to remove <! - ~ 9 ~ -> . I cry <! - ~ 12 ~ ->.
What is it I have changed ?
I edit often because of a punctuation because KDVina , at the same time I 'm writing in Armenian , I do not find the keys in the same place . Anyway, there I add clarification.
And to put Like when you are rude and kicked out , you know, it would be strange , even for me . Although I'm usually more than generous with huskies .
 Crying do not have enough " Sorry , did not understand ," but it seems to be weak. Yes, and I'm tired already to deal with all of this , and work to do .
so do not bother .



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Старый 19.05.2013, 23:37 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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enough, "Sorry, do not understand," but it seems to be weak. Yes, and I'm tired already to deal with all of this, and work to do.
so do not bother.
Wait, I utruzhus! Not low (a good move), for which I apologize? I understand you correctly and carefully read your posts.
That's why all the rest of the theme: Cyril Syzransky, sergejnowo, Sergei burly, IV, artcol, DSF in a relaxed manner, with dignity, weighted in favor of a topic, for which I am grateful.
But your message, starting with the first, carried a lot of negative energy that you carefully re-read, here's quotes:

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Hosspodi, how much of this was in the late USSR!

This hudfondovaya sharashka these their endless epic-genre scenes with the worker-peasant characters.
 
... And were still sitting lonely women. Same as wallpaper, these are called - the "waiting."

"There is no such special techniques and manners of this painting is not, it all went under the label of" socialist realism "."
Your point of view, "Socialist realism - ... HSNO Act!", I understood immediately and publicly asked you in this thread is not to write. You promised me that at 19:33.

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U_Z leave, leave <! - ~ 5 ~ ->
But did not keep his word and continued to speak until 21:41.
The theme was created by me for specific purposes, not for you overtones "Socialist Realism."

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The Art of the late USSR was happening in front of me and I know very well as who and how many received these orders, and prices even remember now (I thought - there is still only remember some on the painting). By the way, I am not now criticize, and even then beginning, my first article was published in 1982 and since then has regularly published and censored, and then they were not laudatory, so why would I now praise the art. "
If you want to show your attitude towards social realism, create a new theme, and there publish your articles (clippings of articles, then you have certainly filed away), scan and share your productions. The public forum you comment on them, and believe me, the debate is hot.

But if you do not, then all your posts about the articles - flood clean water.

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... editing is often because of a punctuation because KDVina, at the same time I'm writing in Armenian, I do not find the keys in the same place.
The text is something like the Russian was, and here is the Armenian.

Zarajara, for the future, one simple thing, if a person is not interested in your opinion on an issue, and he said to you about this, you should not be offended, just need to step back and take care of business ... or move to another topic.




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But your message, starting with the first , carried a lot of negative energy
You show it. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

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in a relaxed manner , with dignity, carefully expressed in the topic
Similarly expressed and zarajara.

Frankly speaking, I do not understand is that in the said zarajaraoy you hurt . Well, that does not understand. You wasted it all ...



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Старый 20.05.2013, 00:01 Язык оригинала: Русский       #6
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Wait, I utruzhus! Not low (a good move), for which I apologize? I understand you correctly and carefully read your posts.
That's why all the rest of the theme: Cyril Syzransky, sergejnowo, Sergei burly, IV, artcol, DSF in a relaxed manner, with dignity, weighted in favor of a topic, for which I am grateful.
But your message, starting with the first, carried a lot of negative energy that you carefully re-read, here's quotes:

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Your point of view, "Socialist realism - ... HSNO Act!", I understood immediately and publicly asked you in this thread is not to write. You promised me that at 19:33.

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But did not keep his word and continued to speak until 22:40.
The theme was created by me for specific purposes, not for you overtones "Socialist Realism».
Apologize for rudeness usually involuntary, if you intentionally, then of course, it is not necessary.
I do not write in the subject, but since you are addressing me, I answer to you here, I can in my topic, I know, do not mind.
I do not want to attribute their own words, I do not blame you saw the negative energy and "socialist realism, shit," I did not say that, perhaps unconsciously, you do feel that way.
Realism - normal art within certain limits, but when it is art .
 Since you're doing art, as far as I understood in its commercial aspect, the quality really be distinguished from social realism painting hudfondovskogo "Ches." Or do you think that once a person is able pririsovat hand to the body and the ears to the head, then all that it creates - is art?

P.S. A sequence of your message was this: the very thing which you have been sent this message directly to Cyril Syzransky, here, and see what came after that.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...41&postcount=7
All I - to sleep.
 In order not to clutter up your theme flood can continue here tomorrow. http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...194851&page=53



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Старый 20.05.2013, 00:15 Язык оригинала: Русский       #7
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I do not write in the subject line,
So, do you write! You "do not go and say goodbye, say goodbye and leave." <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

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answer to you here, I can in my topic, I know, do not mind.
Dear, I said goodbye to you in this topic, you have to drum up another.
Dear, once again with the release of the text in bold:

Zarajara, for the future, one simple thing, if a person is not interested in your opinion on an issue, and he said to you about this, you should not be offended, just need to step aside and go about your business ... or move to another theme.


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Since you're doing art, as far as I understood in its commercial aspect, the quality really be distinguished from social realism painting hudfondovskogo "Ches." Or do you think that once a person is able pririsovat hand to the body and the ears to the head, then all that it creates - is art?
Almost all of these works (photos in my mailbox number 1, № 11) are taken from the album was released in the early 1980s after the exhibition at the Academy of Arts of the USSR, the reviewer of this edition - AM Gritsay (the album, the way it is and work, as well T.Nazarenko, N. Nesterov and others). Later this exhibition drove across the country, as well as exhibited in Italy and France.


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P.S. A sequence of your message was this: the very thing which you have been sent this message directly to Cyril Syzransky, here, and see what came after that.
"What-what-after <! - ~ 1 ~ ->" tomorrow Administatsiya "show" when recover my deleted message.

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All I - to sleep.
Good night! Sweet dreams!


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In order not to clutter up your theme flood can continue here tomorrow.

Thanks, of course, but I'm in topics like "Let's talk for life" and "arbor" is not involved.




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If you want to show your attitude towards social realism, create a new theme, and there publish your articles (clippings of articles, then you have certainly filed away), scan and share your productions. The public forum you comment on them, and believe me, the debate is hot.

But if you do not, then all your posts about the articles - flood clean water.


The text is something like the Russian was, and here is the Armenian.

Zarajara, for the future, one simple thing, if a person is not interested in your opinion on an issue, and he said to you about this, you should not be offended, just need to step back and take care of business ... or move to another topic.
1. Many of my articles in the network, but only since there were electronic versions of some publications. You can type in search Zara Ter-Hakobyan (I sign for her husband, that those on art, not to be confused with those of psychology). However, lately I write rarely, only about friends, once.
Scan the old ones? Yes, not all, but some have, efficient idea, maybe I will. Maybe I will lay out here is that in Russian.

2. I explained that I edit posts because you have to change the keyboard. And why should you in your posts are adding new pieces?

3. Topic moved beyond the discussion of your pictures (by the way, thanks in part to me), because my message is not addressed only to you, and even though they are your subject, I also do not wonder you like them or not.



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Старый 20.05.2013, 23:28 Язык оригинала: Русский       #9
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1. Many of my articles in the network, but only since there were electronic versions of some publications. You can type in search Zara Ter-Akopian (I sign for her husband, that those on art, not to be confused with those of psychology). However, lately I write rarely, only about friends, once.
Scan the old ones? Yes, not all, but some have, efficient idea, maybe I will. Maybe I will lay out here is that in Russian.
We look forward to your articles straight since 1982.
Articles on a possible "Summerhouse". I think that there they would find an audience among your admirers.

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2. I explained that I edit posts because you have to change the keyboard. And why should you in your posts are adding new pieces?
I accepted your explanation. (Sometimes it is easier to agree than to explain why the "no").
"Adding new pieces" - a positive effect, but quickly corrected, because he said, stupid or wrong - it somehow, you know ... not really.

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Rude I call "do not write because I do not know," I know, do not have the habit of writing about what I do not understand, or to stipulate that they say do not know.
Thanks Administration Forum! My deleted message restored (see below). Boorish it or not - it's public forum.

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zarajara, you can not ask to speak to this topic, because you do not understand my question. Thanks in advance!
Dear Lord! Forced to remove images of works, as "3. Theme went beyond the discussion of your pictures (by the way, thanks in part to me) ...". I hope that it will calm and participating in the forum for it will no longer be subjects for discussion. (By the way, she did not understand that they have discussed the work of the album, not mine.'s Just that I was interested in the manner of one of the artists. Though, I admit, some of the items I have purchased with pleasure <! - ~ 1 ~ - >!).


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3. Topic moved beyond the discussion of your pictures (by the way, thanks in part to me), because my message is not addressed only to you, and even though they are your subject, I also do not wonder you like them or not.
Strong <! - ~ 7 ~ ->! There are no words! Just a gem! He took a pencil! <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Anyone who agrees with item number 3 posts zarajara spasibki please put it in the message number 39.


Thank you for adequate discussion of the Forum! For its part, the subject is closed.




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Dear Lord! Forced to remove images of works, as "3. Theme went beyond the discussion of your pictures (by the way, thanks in part to me) ...". I hope that it will calm and participating in the forum for it will no longer be subjects for discussion. (By the way, she did not understand that they have discussed the work of the album, not mine.'s Just that I was interested in the manner of one of the artists. Though, I admit, some of the items I have purchased with pleasure <! - ~ 1 ~ - >!).


Thank you for adequate discussion of the Forum! For its part, the subject of close.
Nothing was removed. This topic and so exhausted and living its last hours, unless of course we have not volem in her new piece of the energy of its amusing skirmish (which make sense because no one understood).
Well restored that same message I read, still find it boorish and not deserved.
And I'm still right - there is no particular style and manners of the late works of socialist realism.
The fact that the album - make a difference?
PSChto You are so nervous about my old articles? And so what you want me to put them? Type to prove that I'm lying? - Not even funny. Why would I lie?



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