A good artist - a successful artist?

[LCR]

What I did not interfere in your very interesting conversation and said nothing in their mouths, does not mean that I have not watched him with great attention. It so happens that it seems to me that both of you are right. Still, in the main I agree with DSF:

Сообщение от DSF

When I say that "talent is realized," I do not mean the "promotion", "understanding of the crowd", "prodiranie to fame" and various other attributes of "success" or "failed". I want to say that if a person has a talent of the artist, given to him over, he will paint or draw, using any opportunity (if it is, of course, not killed). And what is the fate of his works - this is a question entirely different. "Zdaneviches" there sooner or later, even a hundred years, would be a good picture. But even if all the artist's work will be lost if we can say that he did not realize? He is committed, all that should be.

I'll try to express their views.

Сообщение от Art-lover

High creativity - it is not only the disclosure of the topic, this is a very intimate process in which the crucial insight of the artist. And the disclosure of this intuition depends not only anticipating the future image of the picture, but from a sense of texture of materials, from delicate shades of colors, from the dynamics of hand movement. The artist works with all my being, it is important to all. That is why the size of 3x4m strikingly different from the format 30x40cm, that's why different tools and paint. Sorry, but the artists do not feel a bond with the image format, and "special colors" - this is cobblers.

Size, indeed, very important. Colors, too, but the size terribly important. And it is true that sometimes the artist to realize their intentions does not allow the lack of space, lack of money for materials. But in the end, all is not so important - the artist is realized on smaller canvases, working Paint colors - the preservation of his works, is another matter.

Сообщение от Art-lover

"recognize the lion by his claws." Enough to confront the fact that the artist has done with his aspirations to understand it or bluff seriously. Do I need to explain that I do not consider the many luminaries "district" scale?
Apparently, many difficult to believe in the reality of situations where a strong artist in our time can not afford to this very blank canvas and paint neat, decent, diluted with linseed oil. " Just imagine, for example, that de Stael, with its refined mentality and with the level of artist. technology would have been imprisoned by the will of fate in some provincial town? Would have received it from his abstraction means to live and paint, to do what he considered proper? And always there is a way out of such a situation? Happy to make some crafts for bread, but at night paintings in charcoal on the wall paint? And if this power is left?
Is it fair in such cases say that "failed to be realized - was not talented"?

Here we are in the hypothetical. But I think that if they were born in some provincial town, he would have done what was done Chagall and Soutine, ie the foot would have left the place where he bylaby maximum opportunity to realize themselves.

Сообщение от Art-lover

When I try to sort out their impressions of the picture, then sometimes try to first "see" it in the context of world art, and then imagine that it's not that no one had ever seen. And now, before some pictures in the soul rises protest against the removal of an imaginary, but to others - no. If any artist's paintings are not lost on the background of world art, then there is - can be selfish - the desire to work this artist had more. And when you find out that more of them could not be due to the fact that the environment is an artist resist their appearance, there is a sad question: why God sometimes gives the artist an exceptional talent, but fate is so that this talent is revealed only in part?

Of course, when you see the work sooner gone a great artist, bear to think what we have been deprived. But by itself this is an infinite sadness, frustration, this suggests that the artist realized that - he left things in full force showing his talent - otherwise, what would we regret?

Сообщение от Art-lover

Returning to the question "A good artist - a successful artist?" I want to note one interesting aspect.
Infrastructure of art in our time is very industrialized. In this "factory of stars" demand very specific, "conditioning" talents, and in limited quantities. Therefore, one of the main tasks of contemporary art institutions - the suppression of creativity, which is not invested: that might divert attention from the lucrative brands, awaits the fate of weed.

All this is also true. Nevertheless, the talent always realized. Our main problem, I think it is more likely to find it, do not pass, because the information very much, and it is filtered in some way, which you both time and talk.

Here, I apologize for triviality of the above considerations