A good artist - a successful artist?

[DSF]

Сообщение от Eugene

Poverty is not mandatory for the success of the artist, rather the opposite.

Quite agree with you, but I do not asserted. I just wanted to say that the commercial success or failure should be treated calmly and not do the tragedy of what you paid 10 000 USD, not $ 10 000

Сообщение от Eugene

Word of Renoir, Degas is just beautiful words, far from the truth.

And I, after all, are more inclined to trust the people who own life and works have proved that something can.

Сообщение от LCR

But I remember, was one such poet, you know, he said: "Not for Sale inspiration, but you can sell a manuscript - because the artist also had to eat

The same poet also said: "In other lands, writers write, or to the crowd, or for small numbers. (These are, with love studying new creation, pronounced him to court, and thus the creation, not subject to the court audience, gets in her opinion the price and place he owned). We can not last, should write for himself ."))

[Meister]

but interestingly, if we imagine that the artist is provided from infancy that he would not have to think what to eat tomorrow, and for how much and to whom to sell their work, he can concentrate fully on their work and find out whether we are about it? Why should he sell something that, if he has everything?
In my opinion, has always been three kinds of artists:
1. were focused only on his art, and eked out a miserable existence;
2.dlya whose main draw was commercially profitable thing, whatever it was interesting to them or not;
3. kind of hybrid of 1 and 2 species, drawing suitable for sale things to be able to draw for themselves. "

[Glasha]

Сообщение от Meister

if we imagine that the artist is provided from infancy that he would not have to think what to eat tomorrow, and for how much and to whom to sell their work, he can concentrate fully on their work and find out whether we are about it? Why should he sell something that, if he already has everything?

There are examples of this - Toulouse Lautrec, sorry, just that it occurred, is confident they can be a lot more to add.

[Meister]

who has more chances to reveal - the secured artist or the artist, who must constantly strive for? or is it solely a question of talent?

[Glasha]

I think if "equal talent" (hypothetically possible to prevent this) if necessary to the survival, of course, likely more. Still, determining here-the degree of talent.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Meister

who has more chances to reveal - the secured artist

We secured an order of magnitude more likely ..

[Meister]

Сообщение от Eugene

I secured an order of magnitude more chances ..

I think the opposite ... a person in a difficult situation, more inventive and had more active brain works ...

[Евгений]

Meister, It was a long time (19 century), now everything else in the art business.
You know it and understand. "Aliens do not go .."

[Glasha]

I think the truth is, as always, somewhere in the middle way: the artist should be "fed up" (so as not to faint under the weight of the brush /pencil, so that today or tomorrow, no one kicked out of the house /shop), but not had enough (in ideal conditions in all senses artist disappears) ...

[Meister]

Сообщение от Gala

(in ideal conditions in all senses artist disappears )...

what I had in mind ...