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Old 14-02-2013, 19:02 Original language: Russian        #11
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That is not the work of Russian avant-garde artist .

OK , let's say that the author - a Russian cubist .
And in Russia, took the form of cubism kubofuturizma .
And even with all the courage of Russian Futurism and revolutionaries in the arts, it's hard to imagine that any of them in the early twentieth century was able to invent a mini -skirt. >
What an unexpected turn. That is, you assume the picture depicts a woman in a mini- skirt? I saw a man in traditional dress French nobleman >. That is, you start from the assumption that the work of "outstanding " for the works of the Russian avant-garde artists of the early 20th century. I have no such expectations , I was looking for information about the possible authorship. I understand your opinion of what the picture is not, what do you think it is ? I am convinced that the work " is not of yesterday ," and not designed for today's market conditions.



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That is, you start from the assumption that the work of" outstanding "for the works of the Russian avant-garde in the early 20.
And from what else you can imagine, seeing the figure inscription " ten rubles "?



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Old 14-02-2013, 19:15 Original language: Russian        #13
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For the image of a man with a girl (with this questions arise, blond hair, pink clothes) you can see the conceptual idea, it is "as if" a traditional story "Madonna and Child" on the contrary.
What could be more avant-garde.



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Old 14-02-2013, 19:18 Original language: Russian        #14
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for the image of a man with a girl ( with the questions arise, blond hair , pink clothes) you can see the conceptual idea , it is "as if" a traditional story " Madonna and Child " on the contrary .
Easier "see" in this drawing sketch , such as theatrical costumes .



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What else can you imagine seeing the figure inscription " ten rubles "?
If we accept that the word "ruble" on etymology associated with the word hack , stump silver rod, hryvnia , or something else, then this work right, you can not only read the "ten rubles," but to see them. This is really Hryvnia (ingot ) of which is cut off ( cut off ) is 1/10 part , as shown in its actual size on the job. From this point of view, the words " ten rubles, " can be seen not only as a stylized Russian avant-garde, but also as an artist's conception , which it appears in the work.



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If we assume that the word "ruble" on etymology associated with the word hack , stump silver rod, hryvnia , or something else , then this work right, you can not only read the "ten rubles" but to see them. This is really Hryvnia (ingot ) of which is cut off ( cut off ) is 1/10 part , as shown in its actual size on the job. From this point of view, the words " ten rubles, " can be seen not only as a stylized Russian avant-garde, but also as an artist's conception , which it appears in the work.
Eck you sausage ... >
I suspect that you actually paid for it " a decent price ": old thing , no small price (c). >



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Your opinion on this work .
This is a very poor job, to whose it was. Attempt to portray the actor with a doll (probably) near something like a curtain.
The composition is terrible : the head rests against the frame. About Cubism author has the amateurish presentation , thinking that is enough " raschertit " figure , and all that you can and can not be distorted without any meaning.
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Probably letters redraw foreigner,

Definitely.
A Russian people are not smart enough and I draw.
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The work can be dated to at least clear the 1950s, not before.

Pencil inscription on the back is done in French (I read a la côte, or something like that).

Hudozhestvvennoy veshchichki value has virtually no.



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