Relationship and mutual obligations between the artist and gallery owners

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от artcol; 2348051"

So like them does not make one ...

Yes, but in this particular shows the overall situation . That is , what is next to the cathedral, is everywhere, and we have so there will be no investment , no auctions , no , in general, there is no " European " ...
Selling even " tourist landscapes" should be free "travel " ... In the "street" trade was its own culture, their relationships, their genius ...
Around the same , even as ask him anything and everywhere wrong ...
Shared space , but too many displaced ...
Deception was a little too thick ...

[Pablo]

Сообщение от K-Maler

artists are given ( someone) canvas, numbered and they do need three commercial pictures a day. Then paid the day at a low price . While I could not locate a specific amount ... What is this agreement and who do not know ... Ie contract is for working days and these days are paid only if there are three pictures a day. From this , it is difficult for the image of the monument, on canvas. Author's signature is not raised.

What horror ...

[artcol]

Сообщение от K-Maler

Yes, but in this particular shows the overall situation . That is , what is next to the cathedral, is everywhere, and we have so there will be no investment , no auctions , no , in general, there is no " European " ...
Selling even " tourist landscapes" should be free "travel " ... In the "street" trade was its own culture, their relationships, their genius ...
Around the same , even as ask him anything and everywhere wrong ...
Shared space , but too many displaced ...
Deception was a little too thick ...

Some kind of natural selection. But even without the help of a talented artist - will be gone. A talent - this is a real value. Money to pay for it is a fact. Just huckster psychology - it's a bit nekomplimentarna humanity and expediency, only the efficiency , and that various shots understood .

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от artcol

Something like natural selection.
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Natural selection occurs when married to the beautiful ...
but what we are discussing is in the intellectual field ...
when natural selection has already taken place.
And already responsible for his words and for his deeds.

[artcol]

Сообщение от K-Maler

Natural selection occurs when married to the beautiful ... but what we are discussing is in the intellectual field ... when natural selection has already taken place . And already responsible for his words and for his deeds .

There is also selection. And by the way , in our local circumstances (and in general ) - I'm glad.

[Artoil-A]

Сообщение от K-Maler

If the gallery owners. But here is a picture of life, I do not know how much new ... Outside a cathedral in St. Petersburg the following happens: artists draw and picture blissful ... looking ... in fact there ruthless commerce and almost criminal. The artists are given (someone) canvas, numbered and they do need three commercial pictures a day. Then paid the day at a low price. While I could not locate a specific amount ... What is this agreement and who do not know ... Ie contract is for working days and these days are paid only if there are three pictures a day. From this, it is difficult for the image of the monument, on canvas. Author's signature is not raised.
"Outsider" artist there can "ask" ... This space prihvatizirovano ... Here's the form, so to speak, and investments. Or outright banditry.

It was twenty years ago. Artists are paid 10-20%. Normal price of the painting for sale 100 - 150 bucks.
With the canvas on stretcher frame was issued, which must be covered tinted lacquer.
3 paintings a day - more graphics under the stencil. But the price schedule is even smaller. 2-3 times than painting.
Usually, foreign entrepreneurs needed 5.10 pictures per month meter size or miniature painted carefully. Variations on a photo paintings of Western artists. But no treaty with foreigners lasted long because of their ineradicable craving for fraud.

[iosif]

"If the gallery owners. But here is a picture of life, I do not know how much new ... Near one Cathedral in St. Petersburg , the following occurs : the artists paint and blissful picture ... looking ... in fact there ruthless commerce and almost criminal. The artists are given ( someone) canvas, numbered and they do need three commercial pictures a day. then paid the day at a low price . While I could not locate a specific amount ... What is this agreement and who do not know .. . Ie contract is for working days and these days are paid only if there are three pictures a day. From this , it is difficult for the image of the monument, on canvas. authorial signature is not raised.
" Outsider " artist there can "ask" ... This space prihvatizirovano ... Here's the form, so to speak , and investments. Or outright banditry. "

Unpleasant situation, but I think that has no relation to art and art business. It is, rather , fishing , souvenirs . Same thing, but - more. Not surprising , corruption in the vodka business.

[Artoil-A]

Сообщение от iosif

"If the gallery owners.
in fact there ruthless commerce and almost criminal. The artists are given ( someone) canvas, numbered and they do need three commercial pictures a day. Then paid the day at a low price . While I could not locate a specific amount ... What is this agreement and who do not know ...
.....

Unpleasant situation, but I think that has no relation to art and art business. It is, rather , fishing , souvenirs . Same thing, but - more. Not surprising , corruption in the vodka business .

I worked for this owner about 20 years ago in Moscow. Artist fall to 10-20 %of the selling price. Written contracts were not. Labor discipline is a roof ...
This organization has been effective - the artists something earned. Competitors from for various reasons were not kept on the market. Work on the master learned a lot.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Artoil-A

I have worked on such a host for 20 years ago in Moscow. Artist fall to 10-20 %of the selling price. Written contracts were not. Labor discipline is a roof ...
This organization has been effective - the artists something earned. Competitors from for various reasons were not kept on the market. Work on the master learned a lot .

 This is your personal experience. But you have not worked with major artists, and this experience you do not. Let's see how the cooperation gallery owner in the West, in America and in France, and from this experience sravnim.Kak get pictures to gallery owner, he buys them , or take to sell, he has a clientele of how the evaluation of pictures? This is the real stuff would be for sranveniya .

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Сообщение от K-Maler

Natural selection occurs when married to the beautiful ... but what we are discussing is in the intellectual field ... when natural selection has already taken place . And already responsible for his words and for his deeds .

It so happens that beauties are unnatural selection money and resources. >

[Artoil-A]

Сообщение от Pavel

This is your personal experience.
But you have not worked with major artists, and this experience you do not.

I learned from major artists and has worked with major galleries.
I have some experience in international trade.

I wonder, where did you get such false information about me?