Auction photos, Christy, New York

[fross]

Works of Ray Mann, Irwin Penn, Diane Arbus, Helmut Newton and Ansel Adams.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

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But we picture will ever the same cost?

No, I think. Exceptions: Rodchenko, Vertov, Svishtov, Paola, can Shterenberg ... Somehow, somewhere, Nappelbaum, Eisenstein. This wave.
In Rodchenko "Girl with a Leica for 126 000 GBP gone. And the long-oh ... And as for 20 it took a lot of photos.

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work at 20-150 thousands of dollars

[Allena]

In 2000, around the world drove exhibition "Propaganda and Dreams. Photo 1930 in the USSR and the USA." Cyril, you must have seen it in Samara was also.

http://www.photographer.ru/cult/history/44.htm

Near the American masters were Rodchenko, Ignatowicz, Max Alpert, Markov-Grinberg, Victor Bull, and other masters.

The contrast was fantastic: forgive me, lovers of the American photo, but we were three orders of magnitude higher.
But, of course, auction items - they're different, and it is doubtful whether those who exhibited at the time (refer to the Americans) have a high price at auction (perhaps only Dorothy Lang, but the search time is not). In that show there was another problem.

Generation of great Russian photographers took. That they were able to be reporters and artists at the same time, elevate reportage shots to timeless images. Their works are undervalued, but that has its own reasons, including the objective. Sorry for bombast, but when their work will be conclusively regarded as the greatest reservoir of photography (than it actually is), only then can we talk about equity prices. At the same time this layer was the brainchild of his time, that in this case is good and bad simultaneously.

Now we have, sadly, is no genius, remarkable talents - too. No, and of those, alas, who really engaged in photography. Modern domestic art cosmically far from the art of photography. Hence - low prices. And on fotoauktsionah than anywhere else, market things very rarely go for high prices. Is expensive now!

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when their work will be conclusively regarded as the greatest reservoir of photography (than it actually is), only then can we talk about equity prices.

But, unfortunately, we do not have the American attitude to the art of photography and because all of our artists appreciate the "there" and buy a lot of money "they".
This is so unlikely in our attitude to photography as an art change.
  Not to mention the photos as an investment.

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Cyril, you must have seen it in Samara was also.

http://www.photographer.ru/cult/history/44.htm

Would it be in 2000?
As if at all in another life ...

[Allena]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Would it be in 2000?
As if at all in another life ...

Exactly! And all it took 10 years ...

It is my deepest conviction, attitude to photography as an art - it is the indicator of the level of culture - and man, and society. And if you draw kalyaku may still not everyone, then click the soap box - what could be simpler! That's out of this ignorance, all the relationships and flow.

[Tamila]

Another to keep in mind that the American picture became popular due to the exhibition not only in the U.S., but worldwide. Unlike the Soviet Union, where the work of photographers 1920-1930s, the 1960s were known only within the country, well, except for some (Rodchenko, El Lissitzky, etc.). For a long time "thanks to" the iron curtain Russian /Soviet photography was not open to the rest of the world, there was no show. Hence, the ratio of prices for Russian, American, French photographer.
In 1990 was released an album of photos of the Great Patriotic War (do not remember the name), it was compared photos of Russian and American military photojournalists, in Russian and English languages. It was very interesting. Of course, much has been done, but it also cost. In a world first saw pictures of the war by the Soviet photographers, and the quality of engineering pictures in no way inferior American. There were work Shaikhet, George Selma, Max Alpert, Robert Diament (his shooting Navy and Air Force are staggering), sister of Boris Ignatovich Olga Ignatowicz, Olga Lander (incidentally, the only women photographers in the war) and so on.
Disputes concerning the attitude to photography as an art has always been, from the opening images in the 19 century and still. In Russia the picture is no longer regarded as art, I think, since the 1930s, when "the highest degree of photography was regarded as photo essay" when instilled "a method of socialist realism." Hence, the attitude to photography and creative photographers.

[Galyona]

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Now we have, sadly, is no genius, remarkable talents - too.

Men of genius and talent - there simply is first necessary to notice them ...
and buy them something ... still alive

[Allena]

Сообщение от "Tamila

In Russia the picture is no longer regarded as art, I think, since the 1930s, when" the highest degree of photography was regarded as photo essay "when instilled" a method of socialist realism. " Hence, the attitude to photography and creative photographers.

It is true, and while this attitude does not change, we will have to auction what we have.

And about the shooting: our photo wartime American 100 points handicap could give easily - precisely because of his talent, "new" attitude to the stories and "old" photographic culture.