Продам: Hlebnikov, two silver cups

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Excellent pair of silver cups.
Hlebnikov.

In excellent condition.

Weight - 81.6 and 83 gr.

Minimum price - $ 12 /g.

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Gentlemen, do not want to own such items, to touch eternity having drunk wine grace of these vessels?

[Fed]

Are you sure you want to know?

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Сообщение от Interest

having drunk wine grace of these vessels?

Of these "vessels" drink vodka.
This pile.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

From these "vessels" drink vodka. This pile.

Excursion into history:
2. Major trade and consumer of wine in terms of bread XV - XIX centuries

1. "Grain wine" (1653). This term is known in the literature in the second half of the XVII century the most common to refer to vodka or grain alcohol. But officially, the term was applied. The term "bread wine" is mentioned without any definition. All commercial, administrative, legal documents from 1659 to 1765 consumed only the word "wine" without otherwise specified. Since 1765 introduces compulsory clarification purity of grain alcohol in his official mention that along with the introduction of 1731 precise terminology of wines allows clearly distinguish the mid XVIII century, vodka and wine. Until then, in informal situations in everyday life, writing, in trade, especially retail, used a variety of terms that distinguish it bread and wine are either equivalent to, or replacement of the definition of "meat" or a euphemism or metonymy, or, finally, second half of the XVIII century, a direct indication of the degree of sanitized product.

However, until 1649, and partially up to 1765 continued to prevail, the terms "bread wine" the most ancient origin, was fixed only in the home or in the common people of ancient instruments. The oldest of these terms - "cooked wine", "pub", "burning wine".

2. "Cooked wine" and "digest". "Cooked wine" - one of the first, and perhaps the very first of the terms associated with the production of vodka. Its antiquity documented late XIV century (1399) - "boiled wine drinkers." But most importantly, in its meaning, the term "cooked wine" created by analogy with the terms "cooked honey" and "boiled beer." Close to it and disappeared, the term "digest" (in existence since the mid-XIV., And disappeared at the beginning of XVI century.), Signifying a strong drink made by boiling the finished cooked low-quality honey with the finished beer. Apparently, digest - indirect, parallel predecessor vodka, boiled wine, and digest it as a benign substitute honey used in the events of the River Piano (1377), and the capture of Moscow Tokhtamysh (1382).

This mechanical mixture of two different alcoholic beverages are served to strengthen the idea of ​​the intoxicating honey cooked by boiling them with alcohol finished product containing malt and grain (grain). Created with the mechanical mixture of the two started growing concentration of fusel oils in the drink and the resulting digest sharp intoxicating effect was attributed solely bready component, prompting used further for distillation as raw material only bread. This explanation of the origin of vodka combines the most complete and the most right to interpret all available on this "contradictory" facts, so that the "contradiction" disappears.

As a new, cheap and potent agent to "digest" as a separate product mentioned in the agreement between Moscow and Lithuania in 1470, and the last time - an official document in 1495. Then he was completely left out of the production (at least 1530) and replaced with cooked wine, which is undoubtedly one of the first, and perhaps the very first official term of vodka. It is possible that boiled wine some time called himself digest, so the term "cooked wine" does not have a clear enough sense. At the same time, the continuity between the old terms of production (boiled honey), transitional, intermediate type of production (digest) and the new production - distilling (cooked wine) is still evident. She spoke forcefully in favor of the "cooked wine" - the first time the term vodka, when the process of distillation (or more precisely - vinosideniya) did not realize how high-quality and technically new.

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Сообщение от Interest

bit of history

Yeah, I wonder.

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The main trade and consumer of wine in terms of bread XV - XIX centuries

Yes, but we live in the XIX and the wine is now called the fermented juice of the grape, not vodka or "bread wine".

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

From these "vessels" drink vodka.
This pile.

You can even ask such a name - table wine № 21

I ask back to shopping,!

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Yeah, I wonder.



Yes, but we do not even live in the XIX, and XXI century and the wine is now called the fermented juice of the grape, not vodka or "bread wine".

Debate is over, go to the bargaining!
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Сообщение от Fed

Are you sure you want to know?

Trying to help potential buyers dream.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

From these "vessels" drink vodka.
This pile.

Speak for a second opinion other than this:

This so-called
kidushny cup (8 cm in height as in any way), and drink the wine thereof.


http://toldot.ru/tora/articles/articles_357.html

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Сообщение от Mihalich , 2229951"

This so-called kidushny cup ( 8 cm in height as in any way ) , and drink the wine thereof .

Kidushnye glasses have a height of 10-12 cm, as a rule , and they figure , again, is usually defined.
And if some Russian Jews ordered to Khlebnikov kidushnye glasses , it really would have booked the actual product level Khlebnikov , not these dull faceless purely functional stack - mahanul it and do not care - there Khlebnikov chi Ovchinnikov.