? Petrov-Vodkin? help identify the author

[paladio]

Dear experts, need help in determining authorship and time of creation, respectively ... If anyone knows shown - will be grateful ...
Thanks in advance for any information ...

[Игорь Гурьев]

Kuzma Sergeevich died in 1939, but this picture is already written in this century seems to be.

It is unlikely that he would be able to write her out of the coffin.

[Михалыч]

Sent a picture Borodina. That's what got the answer:
"... What I can tell at a glance about the watercolors of photos with a weak resolution ... Yes, like a watercolor Petrov-Vodkin, perhaps, is a portrait of his wife - Mary. I think that is executed in watercolor in 1908 in Paris, where He studied and met his future wife. He wrote a lot during these years his wife have put into writing two portraits of Mary with the oil (on the left - in 1906 - the first portrait after meeting and to the right in 1913 - one of her best portraits have made in Russia) . In the first portrait of her sitting in the same dress with a frill at the second - over the image of Mary - generalized greens, made almost in the same manner as the curtain over the image in watercolor, the Mara is the same hairstyle as watercolors, she wore a haircut, but he told her watercolors flattered, making her features are smaller than they actually were, and eyes brighter. Just like the portrait in 1913 shows the folds of the dress on the breast of Mary. Note the shape of the face of Mary on portrait in 1913, and watercolors. as it forms the volume, the transitions from light to shadow. And even in the oil it does it very gently, melted. in watercolor is even thinner. ISF and flattered the master's wife, still looking at the picture, I immediately thought it was Mara, although it differs from its image in the other portraits and photos. Signature is also very similar. It is surprising that there is no date next to the signature, as he usually did, although occasionally there are no signatures and dates. But, I repeat that now are "masters" that can be taken from several works some details specific to the master and bungled that the new .... "

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от VI Borodin , 2085381 '

Yes, like a watercolor Petrov-Vodkin , perhaps , is a portrait of his wife - Mary .

Yes , the lady presented to the watercolor like MF Petrov -Vodkin , but it was too young .

Сообщение от VI Borodin ; 2085381"

But, I repeat , that now are " masters" that can be taken from several works some details specific to the master and bungled the new ...

That's just it ...
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[redbor]

Сообщение от Kirill Syzran ; 2085411"

lady presented to the watercolor like MF Petrov -Vodkin

One day is not very similar to a triangular face , high cheekbones , nose snub .
And on the other portraits in the artist's wife elongated oval face and nose with the other.
That's hairstyle and dress alike.
But how can a single hair and dress of all time?
The image comparison by Mikhailovich - see the ladies in the same dress, but with different faces.
Probably , and various artists
Here's another portrait of the way in 1907 .

[Дилетант]

Сообщение от redbor; 2085521 '

That's hairstyle and dress alike.

That compared with those details on the first portrait of helplessness and issue presented in the discussion. If the real work - a high collar, close-fitting neck , then the discussion - bandage noose , trauma tire , whatever , just do not stand. Without the slightest understanding of the shape and volume of the image holds a bow and jabot . Hang a piece of chewed , torn from a roll of cheap toilet paper. The folds on the chest looks as if a dress does not even board, but as the doctors say "minus fabric ." Yes, and the folds are made differently than in the portrait in 1913 .
My Amateur skoe opinion - based on the arbitrary creation . Author - unknown.

[Игорь Гурьев]

Lord!

Why, if this Kuzma Sergeevich helplessly saw watercolors, he would have taken away the language of surprise.


What can I do to discuss?

[redbor]

Сообщение от dabbler ; 2085781 '

That's compared with those details on the first portrait of helplessness and issue presented in the discussion of the work .

details , yes.
But I especially did not like the person itself .
Borodin called it "the artist flattered his wife , making her features are smaller than they really are, and your eyes brighter .. " <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Сообщение от Guriev , Igor ; 2085801 '

Yes, if Kuzma Sergeevich watercolors helplessly saw this , he would have taken away the language of surprise

It is unlikely that he would see , watercolors , probably after his death is made.

[uriart]

Mikhailovich, Anywhere with Mary a big nose, and suddenly you on, a very small nose, pug nose.

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Сообщение от Toinen; 2085821"

" ... do not dress well in hand penny! "

One of my favorite ditties . Only the " dress AEs so" - she , a " sick " - to everyone. <! - ~ 12 ~ ->

Сообщение от Guriev , Igor ; 2085801 '

What can I do to discuss ?

Authorship , sir, sir ; authorship. Authenticity . Membership of the brush by Kuzma Petrov -Vodkin. The level of performance. Creation time.

Сообщение от redbor; 2085861"

But I especially did not like the person itself .

A person who seems to have no one liked ...