Madonna 19c. oil on canvas Signature not read ... - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

AlexSpb · 23-04-2012, 22:24

Size approximately 80x60 .
The best picture at the moment do not have , but , like, something you can do it . True, the third letter has experienced severe difficulties. I tried to pick up the results can not boast , though the name seems quite logical , " reconstructed ". Maybe someone encountered this signature ?

sergejnowo · 23-04-2012, 23:52

you have a copy of the work of Franz Defregger.

Well, a copy of it in Africa and a copy

OlegTsi · 23-04-2012, 23:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by "AlexSpb; 2081551 '

Maybe someone encountered this signature?

Written by: Mal.
J.
Strzelbicki z Przemyślu (Mal - Maliowal) - ie, write J (R).
Stzhelbitski to Przemysl (in Polish)

AlexSpb · 24-04-2012, 01:10

Thanks for the quick clarity.
The red color sign , though looks a bit alien , I confess frankly - did not cause suspicion . Usually , after all, people are not shy about copying writing "cop" instead of "mal", but it is worth and how much "pinxit"- s passed through the hands of ...

By association offer gourmet and " Kings of guessing " to determine the picture. This is my grandfather (if that art education was not ) in the twenty -something years , and dabbled did not hesitate , only to mischief - his (and my ) last name - to sign. Quality does not discuss , but is consistent with the original staging .
The picture , as the inscription on the pre-revolutionary black and white reproduction, was in a European museum.

Дед Мороз · 24-04-2012, 06:06

Maybe he Denis "copied"?
<! - 7 ~ ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

sergejnowo · 24-04-2012, 08:17

AlexSpb,

Source can be found in the range of artists in Munich, Vienna Art Nouveau period.

From Klimt (at least), Franz von Stuck up (to a greater extent)

AlexSpb · 24-04-2012, 10:50

Do not Deny , but - France. 1886 .
The artist for me , to put it mildly - a little-known , but it is , I think , only characterizes my qualifications ( pre-revolutionary album, I remember, was called " Treasures of ...").
Now look - on Wikipedia about him a lot and the picture appears there including a dozen major works .
The picture is still there, where there was always the case.

Кирилл Сызранский · 24-04-2012, 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexSpb

France.
1886.

Puvis de Chavannes?

AlexSpb · 24-04-2012, 12:12

Well, though I am a beginner, but not so much de Chavannes would be for me a man AVERAGE fame.
The French Salon , at the junction with Impressionism .
If OlegTsi fail, meaning more intriguing , perhaps, will not be , in the evening tell the name of the author.
A copy , as already mentioned , not too professional , so try to guess the author's style of painting - it's not very rewarding .
On the other hand, seems to be no less renowned than Defregger ... Defregger- and yet know it!

OlegTsi · 26-04-2012, 03:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexSpb

If OlegTsi not cope

I just is not enough time for the search.
But the subject is lying naked aunt near lake reminded me of one of the works Kisliga.
Here's a photo below.

23-04-2012, 22:24	Original language: Russian #1
AlexSpb Старожил Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 588 Thanks: 290 Thanked 427 Times in 181 Posts Reputation: 817	Madonna 19c. oil on canvas Signature not read ... Size approximately 80x60 . The best picture at the moment do not have , but , like, something you can do it . True, the third letter has experienced severe difficulties. I tried to pick up the results can not boast , though the name seems quite logical , " reconstructed ". Maybe someone encountered this signature ? Attached Thumbnails

24-04-2012, 01:10	Original language: Russian #4
AlexSpb Старожил Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 588 Thanks: 290 Thanked 427 Times in 181 Posts Reputation: 817	Thanks for the quick clarity. The red color sign , though looks a bit alien , I confess frankly - did not cause suspicion . Usually , after all, people are not shy about copying writing "cop" instead of "mal", but it is worth and how much "pinxit"- s passed through the hands of ... By association offer gourmet and " Kings of guessing " to determine the picture. This is my grandfather (if that art education was not ) in the twenty -something years , and dabbled did not hesitate , only to mischief - his (and my ) last name - to sign. Quality does not discuss , but is consistent with the original staging . The picture , as the inscription on the pre-revolutionary black and white reproduction, was in a European museum. Attached Thumbnails

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Help to read the signature	ksenjaru	Costs, valuation, attribution	8	18-09-2012 20:20
Can not read the signature.	Ладик	Costs, valuation, attribution	6	02-02-2012 14:05
Maybe someone will read the signature	яков	Costs, valuation, attribution	2	24-01-2010 14:36
Help to read the signature	uriart	Costs, valuation, attribution	20	04-09-2009 19:17
Help to read the signature	uriart	Appraisal	12	04-07-2009 02:55

23-04-2012, 23:52	Original language: Russian #2
sergejnowo Гуру Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Гамбург Posts: 3,845 Thanks: 3,564 Thanked 4,959 Times in 1,455 Posts Reputation: 9306	you have a copy of the work of Franz Defregger. Well, a copy of it in Africa and a copy

24-04-2012, 06:06	Original language: Russian #5
Дед Мороз Banned Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Санкт-Петербург, коллекционер икон Posts: 226 Thanks: 17 Thanked 192 Times in 109 Posts Reputation: 387	Maybe he Denis "copied"? <! - 7 ~ ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

24-04-2012, 08:17	Original language: Russian #6
sergejnowo Гуру Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Гамбург Posts: 3,845 Thanks: 3,564 Thanked 4,959 Times in 1,455 Posts Reputation: 9306	AlexSpb, Source can be found in the range of artists in Munich, Vienna Art Nouveau period. From Klimt (at least), Franz von Stuck up (to a greater extent)

24-04-2012, 10:50	Original language: Russian #7
AlexSpb Старожил Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 588 Thanks: 290 Thanked 427 Times in 181 Posts Reputation: 817	Do not Deny , but - France. 1886 . The artist for me , to put it mildly - a little-known , but it is , I think , only characterizes my qualifications ( pre-revolutionary album, I remember, was called " Treasures of ..."). Now look - on Wikipedia about him a lot and the picture appears there including a dozen major works . The picture is still there, where there was always the case.

24-04-2012, 12:12	Original language: Russian #9
AlexSpb Старожил Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 588 Thanks: 290 Thanked 427 Times in 181 Posts Reputation: 817	Well, though I am a beginner, but not so much de Chavannes would be for me a man AVERAGE fame. The French Salon , at the junction with Impressionism . If OlegTsi fail, meaning more intriguing , perhaps, will not be , in the evening tell the name of the author. A copy , as already mentioned , not too professional , so try to guess the author's style of painting - it's not very rewarding . On the other hand, seems to be no less renowned than Defregger ... Defregger- and yet know it!