- It's very simple. If the gallery brought to book you can ask for 100 thousand, and you and I agree, the auction house you will say, 75 or even 50. This is a reserve price below which the item can not be sold. Of course, growth rates, we do not limit - if the item is sold expensive, it will benefit both the buyer and the auction house. Auctions are ideal primarily for the sale of legacies, failed states, and separately masterpieces.
- In what is now sought after by collectors?
- In our house there is a distinct specialty. We sell everything. And the jewelry and clocks, and china, and books and paintings, ancient and modern, icons, stamps, coins, weapons, engravings, posters, medals and furniture. Demand is everything. And a lot of different collectors and dealers, too. Because we live in Russia, I can say that the greatest demand is all Russian. It's inevitable. But the paradox is that the things worthy of national origin circulating in the market a little. The peculiarity of our history is that things that might be on the market, are actually in a museum. Most of them got there after the October revolution, in the first years of Soviet rule is that the Bolsheviks were selected among the aristocrats and the bourgeoisie. The Great Patriotic War Museum has expanded funds captured in works of art. And at the Hermitage, and the Pushkin Museum, the Museum of History and a huge number of objects that lie dormant there. They were no shows. They lower the museum category. In good, these things have nothing to do in museums.
Calendar "Gelos"
Auction house "Gelos" holds auctions every week. These trades are ranked by value. At Friday's weekly auctions are sold cheap stuff - worth approximately 10 thousand rubles., And even considerably cheaper. In the so-called big Fridays (once a month) things are much more expensive. Items with the auction of the month are able to complete your collection, even the discerning collector. An even higher status in auctions of the season - they are held in late May, August and November. Finally creme a la creme - the year the auction will take place very soon, March 2 and 3. At the auction will sell old books, prints and posters, coins and trophies, antique arms, icons, clocks, jewelry, household items and interior design, old and modern paintings, porcelain and glass, silver.
- And yet the concept of fashion for collecting applicable? What is now fashionable to collect?
- It is difficult to "bring the average temperature in the hospital." In collecting all kinds of people come in different ways and collect different. The incentive may be childhood experiences (eg, preserved trophy hours). And may be unrealized ambitions of man, who left the profession (which is a historian, in the 90s became a businessman and a passion for ancient coins gives him the illusion that he is "in business"). There is, of course, the notion of prestige. Now collect the prestigious Russian silver items vanguard era, Art Deco.
- Ten years ago, lamented the fact that the market has collapsed due to the avant-garde safely nemerenno of his fakes have flooded ...
- For the creative easel, painting, graphics, the situation is really very hard. However, the demand at today's avant-garde pores other artifacts. In particular, the book, which grow in price and demand. Books at a price comparable with the painting. They are collecting items available to a larger group of people.
- I wonder who is now engaged in collecting?
- The different segments are different people. Very often - businessmen with a good education. We notice that the educated are more and more collectors, the competence of all the above. With regard to some things we are interested in the opinions of collectors. It seems that time has passed, "crimson jackets" of which there were jokes like "I've already bought a gift, but I would have a card with the signature of Repin."
To mount on your mind?
One of the most exciting auction items, in the "Gelos" - hand-written, "Woe from Wit" AS Griboyedov. Since the text of the comedy for a long time did not suit the censors, "Woe from Wit" with no significant exemptions were available only in manuscript. At one of these lists belonging to S. Lyapunov, the representative of an ancient noble family, made the inscription itself Griboyedov. List estimated the least 250 thousand rubles., But "Gelos" confident that the auction price will increase significantly.
- The cultural level of our collector is on par with Europe?
- The culture of the treatment of subjects with Europe, we are never equal. When his collection gathers a descendant kakih-nibud English baronet, he had knowledge of the structure of ancient art is excellent. It evolved over centuries, with the help of books, catalogs and inventories. He grew up on this. Direct contact with the object - the basis of the competence of the collector. Not so with us. In the Soviet period, the 30-50s formed the so-called nomenklatura collecting. Many party workers gathered while antiques - often it was the jewelry and home decoration. However, in the absence of professional consultants (many of repression if they do not have time to leave Russia in the 1910s and 1920s), this activity has been haphazard.
In the 60 years, in addition to interior revived the demand for old books, stamps. Although officially condemned by the possession of antiquities, and in some circumstances, a collector can and do spend on criminal charges for collecting old books, for example, the authorities turned a blind eye. But this modest relief, of course, could not remedy the situation. The total for the Soviet and post-Soviet Russia trouble: broken links with the past, historical memory is interrupted, the items taken out of context, their real provenance (origin) is often impossible to establish. This is an occasion for all sorts of scams and fraud.
- Antique market of the late and post-Soviet Russia has been in existence for 25 years. Fakes it circulates less?
- Yes, would not say. The level of fraud is very high today. The technology is really cool, especially in some areas - in numismatics and ancient weapons, for example. On defense factories in Eastern Europe and Russia remains a huge number of outstanding specialists. And even with the equipment. This allows a very high level of fraud. Employed people with higher education. Very often, even with advanced degrees.
- I remember ten years ago salons in the CHA left a strange impression because of the incredible number of "newly acquired" works by Goncharova, Klyun. Today the painting is less than forgery? The people become more proficient?
- I do not think less. From avant-garde painting in general all very difficult. Indeed, the first thing you want to do, when you fall into the hands of an unknown painting famous avant-garde - is to hold the pigment analysis. You take the installation, it is driven under the canvas. Trying to understand what you have to paint. A paint on canvas, created in the early XX century, in general, will not differ from today. You have nothing to prove. And the old paper and canvas to get it no problem.
- How to protect yourself from fraud?
- Technology Technology, but living a qualified art there is no substitute. The biggest problem for today - it is the responsibility of experts. In our country, experts do not bear any responsibility. In general, there are no real prerequisites for this to happen. In Europe, if the judge gives a positive opinion, which then turns out to be protested, the victim (the buyer) paid the money. Experts insure your business, insure themselves against mistakes. We have no liability for such legislation. Not ready and the community.
- Examination of museum today is prohibited. This has changed the situation?
- This did not happen. Yes, today, art history expert museum staff are not printed on the letterhead of museums, and on the forms of organizations with similar names. Accreditation experts involved in the Ministry of Culture (formerly doing now abolished Rosokhrankultura). About 90%of accredited experts - these are the same museum employees (in fact, this is a very narrow world), they are accredited with no issues.
We pay for the image
The most expensive work sold at public auction in recent years - is the painting "Nude on a background of green leaves and bust" (1932) by Pablo Picasso. This canvas was bought at an auction at Christie's in May 2010 to 106.5 million dollars in early February, came the news of noisy transaction - royal family of Qatar bought impressionist Paul Cezanne painting "Card Players" (c. 1895) for a quarter of a billion dollars. Nevertheless, the record is not beaten by Picasso - Cézanne canvas sold by private transaction rather than at auction. In most cases, these transactions do not attract the attention of the press, buyers and sellers prefer not to publicize the deal, especially because sometimes it gets rid of some of the costs. In the case of Cézanne situation is different - Qatari royal family deliberately advertise the opening of the Qatar National Museum of the resonance shopping.
- Prices have increased significantly compared to the mid-late nineties?
- Prior to the crisis of 2008, prices rose steadily. Reached its peak during the period 2005-2007. In a crisis all imploded. Sometime in 2010, it became much restored, but the pre-crisis figures, of course, is not reached. Neither we, nor the Russian auction in London. Regarding the structure of demand, primarily because of the crisis "sunk" mean things. The lower price point is not to say - there's always something on sale. Masterpieces - a separate issue. The man really wanted to buy something unique, dreamed. Understood that if you do not buy now, not ever buy. This causes the shell to the masterpieces. In principle, the price of art has steadily added. However, one should always bear in mind inflation.
- As far as Russian prices for Russian art are different from the price of Russian art at international auction?
- In the West, the most interesting is connected with the domestic trade in art, is a Russian auction week in London. It is staged twice a year (late fall, late spring) event, which traditionally involves four houses (MacDougall's, Bonhams, Sotheby's, Christie's), as a magnet gathers all the fun. They exhibited superveschi with an excellent reputation. One and the same object at auction in London and Moscow are more likely to be sold is more expensive in the UK. Reason for this is not the last - the special situation of import-export items. If a person bought a subject in Russia, it means he is legally he did not take out overseas. Ministry of Culture does not just give him permission. A significant portion of consumers (especially Russian art) does not trust our government and possibly prefers to keep things "out there". If you buy the object here to accept the fact that he is likely to remain so. Therefore, even to equal the quality of things in Russia, the price is cheaper than in Europe.
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