Konstantin Savitsky Apollonovich "Kryuchnik"

[serg468]

Hello dear forum users !
Accidentally got a picture. The previous owners said they drew their grandfather . But I think that they just did not know. Family professorial (medicine), but the older generation is gone, but young people do not need anything . This is the background . The size of the picture 134h99 see an old canvas , see the edge of the picture, dubbed in the old canvas. There are small tears and abrasions of the canvas . In the lower right corner to read the date 1888. On the internet walks image " Kryuchnika " size 60h49 but see a slightly different execution. In the State Tretyakov Gallery is a pencil drawing in 1893 similar to the picture. I want to know your opinion on this work.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

serg468, as for me - you have shown a thing - copy.

"Kryuchnik" - a thing at one time a popular, frequently reproduced, replicated:

[Peter]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

serg468, as for me , shown you a thing - copy.

You can also assume that you have a copy of the author or povtor.Tak as in the picture given year is likely to exist and the artist's signature , otherwise why only god.Esli study copy the famous painting , it has to be signed to a year and do not need ..

[Игорь Гурьев]

Recalls the author's remark, moreover, that the background is different.


In general, it is, in my opinion, no worse than the original.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

Actually it is, in my opinion, no worse than the original.

Hand that's just right is not very well made, did not have the skills, apparently.

[Игорь Гурьев]

Hand?

And in my opinion, the hand as the hand.

[I-V]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 1798603"

as for me , shown you a thing - a copy .

I agree with Kirill.

Alternately , carefully written down every part of the picture, but in the end the depth inherent in the original, no . This is perhaps the only drawback . This is a copy and a copy is very good. Nothing more. But at least , but ...

[serg468]

Thanks for the discussion.
I understand a little painting, and I can not argue.
But there are two purely technical issue.
Canvas dubbed, why?
If it is a copy, where the original?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от serg468; 1798843"

If it is a copy , where the original?

You should see the location of the picture, once You have searched on the internet that " Keychains ":

Сообщение от serg468; 1798573"

On the internet walks image " Kryuchnika " size 60h49 but see a slightly different execution.

Сообщение от serg468; 1798843"

Canvas dubbed , why ?

"Duplication of the canvas " - a way of restoration which is used for thinning and with a strong decay of the canvas.

[serg468]

Weak responses.
In the Internet version of the "Keychains" in 1884 from a private collection, and I think the size is too small to Savitsky.
In this version of TG pictures in pencil in 1893 put up for discussion a version in oil in 1888 need more good arguments to keep smiling about the discovery.