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Старый 12.01.2011, 08:47 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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По умолчанию Dark days of Tom Sawyer

dark days of Tom Sawyer

Natalia Kochetkova

In February 2011, the U.S. publisher NewSouth Books plans to release a new, revised edition of "The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain. The word "nigger" in both books will be replaced by a racially neutral "slave". Politically correct circulation will be 7,500 copies.

"The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, where the word" nigger "is used 219 times, not the first time are persecuted. In 1957 the novel was removed from the list of required reading in junior and secondary schools in New York. In 1998, parents of students in Arizona have filed for the school to court for what this book was part of the same in the compulsory program. "The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, where politically incorrect word appeared only four times, now you do not disturb the fighters for racial equality.

Initiative for editing textbook texts belong not vandals, but distinguished scientist, creativity of Mark Twain, Alan Gribbenu. He, in particular, is preparing to publish the collected works of the writer. Scientific reputation did not save the editor of the American public discontent: Gribben inundated with letters of allegations of desecration of Twain's novels. Most reporters do not offer to rewrite the classics, and provide expanded book of historical and literary commentary, as is customary in the publication of "controversial" lyrics. However, Gribben is on his way. According to him, during the public readings he had long been replaces the "offensive" words into neutral, and the audience listens to him more readily.

After editing Mark Twain's question is: how to be with other classic works of American literature? Say, "Uncle Tom's Cabin Harriet Beecher Stowe and" Gone With the Wind by Margaret Mitchell, in which the word "negro" are often ...

However, and Russian classics are regularly exposed to if not editing, some strange cuts. For example, several years ago, the publishing house "Moscow books" issued literature textbook for the second year of primary school. Among others, the book became a fragment of Pushkin's "Tales of the Dead Princess and Seven Knights." The beginning looks like this: "The king of the queen goodbye, //In a way, the way the shells, //And the queen of the window //Rural wait a ...//it's Christmas Eve at the most, at night, /God gave the queen's daughter" . The words "expects, pozhdet from morning till night, //looks at the field, the Indus eyes /ached glyadyuchi //With white dawn till late at night //shall not see dear friend! //Only sees: blizzard winds, //The snow falls on the field, //All beleshenka land. /Nine months pass, //With the eyes of the field, it does not reduce the "no. As well as angry replica of Queen: "Look how grown up! //And no wonder that white: //Mother paunchy sat //Yes, the snow and just looking!"

Thus, finding the queen's daughter starts to look like the miracle of the Immaculate Conception. And this is a more serious polit-korrektnosti.z

http://www.izvestia.ru/culture/article3150250/



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Старый 12.01.2011, 11:06 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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Previously, dreamed of a miracle medicine that will replace the man lost limbs, etc.
But will not.
First of all transplanted brain, and everything.
Well, except for "unreal molecules whose Respect without measure."
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Старый 12.01.2011, 13:30 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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According to him, during the public readings he had long been replaces the" offensive "words into neutral, and the audience listens to him more readily.

Respect the past - this feature that distinguishes education from the wilderness (Pushkin).


Sadly it all.



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Старый 12.01.2011, 14:42 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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From one very reputable Russian immunologist heard such a thing. The Americans in medicine are common hormonal preparations. They are harmful, but very effective - that is, the effect comes quickly, the patient immediately gets relief and see the result. Make sense? Americans are justifiably believe that the problems in his head - is more important than diseases of the body. And you have to immerse the patient in the psychological comfort. No pain, no fear. Hence, also flourishing plastic surgery and implants boteksov - let the people themselves feel good, get rid of complexes.

Russian medicine is more focused on achieving results through suffering. "We must now endure, to suffer, but then everything will be fine." Maybe so, and good for the body, but against this background that there is mass psychological problems. Which can then climb on all sides: on the roads, in offices, schools ...

Approaches are just different. Once they feel comfortable "slaves" instead of "black" - so be it. God knows what not dogma. Transnational comfort is more important. I suspect that they thought a million times before you do it, at all levels of society. They do not live with Mark Twain, and with its neighbors.



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Старый 12.01.2011, 15:13 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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Mark Twain wrote America the way it was and practically there is. In America was slavery and slaves were blacks, negros. They were considered second-class citizens, inferior race. But from this they decided to get rid of such a simple way. This abomination is worse than fascism. We are even difficult to understand because we did not have slavery in this form, just all the people were in slavery and then 70 years has been freedom, equality, fraternity. In America, this slavery will be given many times during each crisis, the more so because blacks and Latinos have more than whites.



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Старый 12.01.2011, 15:26 Язык оригинала: Русский       #6
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Importantly, to publish without any typos, and even, God forbid, become a poor nigger Jim "person of Slavic nationality" ...




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Старый 12.01.2011, 15:51 Язык оригинала: Русский       #7
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Mark Twain wrote America the way it was and practically there is. In America, this slavery will be given many times during each crisis, the more so because blacks and Latinos have more than whites.
If, in your opinion, slavery in the U.S. almost there yet, while blacks and Latinos have more than white, so who actually is today in the U.S. slaves? Enlighten me.



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Старый 12.01.2011, 15:59 Язык оригинала: Русский       #8
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Most of the correspondents did not offer to rewrite the classics, and provide expanded book of historical and literary commentary, as is customary in the publication of "controversial" lyrics.
The only civilized approach to publishing.

Tolerance, in my view, the concept controversial, very complicated, and that it bear fruit in a conflict situation, it is necessary that both parties have sought to mutual understanding, and not one of them showed superterpimost at any cost and to the detriment of themselves, their own culture (and in this case - national and world culture).

I wonder if it conducted a survey among African Americans - scientists, philosophers, psychologists, sociologists, literary scholars and others about whether to make such "editorial changes", what would they say? I think that the vast majority have spoken would be against.



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finding the queen's daughter starts to look like the miracle of the Immaculate Conception.
Comrade Tiutchev whether you can do it without vulgarity?



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Старый 12.01.2011, 16:43 Язык оригинала: Русский       #10
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interesting, but if you read African (historical) literature, as they're called white people? "(I do not think that's very flattering), and North Africa also took the white slavery and" raids "were doing, why, when you call" white " this is normal, and you call someone "black", immediately call a racist with all the ensuing consequences.

Remarked that if any prestuplanie make white people on the "color" to them immediately, and yet racism is credited, and when on the contrary, tried to ascribe racism as it was immediately objection as racism against white, no ordinary crime (from recent British news).

A literature to correct the complete idiocy, what then is left?
Interestingly, and Negroid Russ exists, or has a more politically correct name of the fix?



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