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Старый 02.12.2010, 23:46 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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По умолчанию In essence, the question I want to post it the following

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Soviet literature of the "dissidents" like Aksenova to officialdom like king-fish Astafieva resembles chocolate Alenka. Framed under russkuuyu girl and Caucasian facial features, as portretik pictured with Ossetian. This was it put quite deliberately and consciously reflect a desire to mislead people, to someone else for their own, and happily in a corner rubbing his hands and divide the loot. For many it was the sport where a number of marching in parades athletes and sportsmen. Athletes are supposed to decency, and the joy of sporty initiation to the sport. Soviet culture essentially was feykovye and kept on consumer ignorance of its qualities, goals and even the level of plagiarism. Had their right not only to cognac and caviar, but also some liberties. Cartoonists borrowed ideas from foreign posters, random cartoonists had to be original, composers and singers peredirali foreign songs, writers zaistvovali thoughts of others and imitate the presence of its own. Artists peredirali subjects. Translators take liberties with Translations and created some literary variation of the infamous chocolate Alenka. Moreover, it could only make their own, a stranger, for example, to convert the male character, leopard Bagheera Bagheera a female character would be caught in outright fraud and immediately would explain why the mock Kipling unacceptable. However, its all you can - they know how to educate the masses. Give feminization, and Bagher becomes Bagirov. Give us the transformation of a negative character in the positive and the split between the generations, and Carlson to become Charming. The original idea Carlson was another - a child living in a fictional world and a wall separated from their parents in the imaginations bad, better than a puppy as a gift from her parents and understanding than nedorostok Carlson. But a translator for us, decided otherwise, and made Carlson goodies, as well as reel on the roofs, broken jars of jam, etc.

Fake flourished everywhere, and kept on a very simple logic behavior - who sees the wrong side or understand the problem, he can go tries. People shavaet who hinder People hawala for both cheeks, to the oxygen redrawn. And blocked successfully. Often even yourself before action is dropped. Enough to whistle - hey, athletes! Athletes were urgent, and rejoiced at the possibility of a team in one pounce. Raschetik was simple - the athletes can not be stopped no drachkoy until it will deal with the athletes. This is not Kung Fu Bruce Lee, whose films flayed the idea of computer games. A master of winning students, as if walking on the steps of increasing complexity of the problem until it meets with the master and owner. Will deal with the athletes - athletes are not relieved of their addictions. They, with the idea, not the owner. That's a good life, many gentlemen of the art, while People are not tired of hawala. Circulation began to fall, audiences ignored films, the artists stopped selling paintings and admiration, and art supplies or art with respect to foreign literature exhausted.
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Now we really have a crisis - the crisis of chocolates Alenka. Since the crisis began to fight the creation of names from people on modest hopes advertisers will not be read. Something like this in the 60's created a name or Lunacharsky Tukhachevsky. Everyone should have known that Lunacharsky - a genius, because he really was not published. Who read Lunacharskogo he had to walk tries since Lunacharskogo read and considered him a genius is impossible. Who remembers that Tukhachevsky stupidly lost the war with Poland, too, had to walk tries, because too much sense in the military strategy. Now we see something similar. Create names for people who once read, and then forgotten, and now they are praised in the hope that a serious re-read them will not. Stumble upon something primitive, put off the book aside and forget insight into the quality of products. Bella Akhmadulina have some good poems, because they are beautifully recited or sung their lyrics in the movie. But God forbid you read these verses closely together with other poems. Immediately the question arises - how this man with a sense of beauty, if she so much bad poetry without blushing put in your collection? Response to something simple - there are other verses, but they are even worse. Or take the Ascension and read. Oh, and pisuch a friend! Indeed, what he thought publishing the multivolume? Probably about Bublé, the hawala and the People that disagree can go tries.

Indeed, why do not you refresh your memory, read Mayakovsky, and then take up the poem Longjumeau Ascension? Mayakovsky - a genius. It is difficult to share his views of the Bolshevik, but his work with the word, an abundance of alliteration, expressiveness, rhythm, precision expressions are amazing. But Longjumeau Ascension after Mayakovsky's perceived as a poor rip-off. Just do not think that I am an ideological enemy of the plagiarists. Shakespeare took a very well-known in his time, stories about the mad Danish prince, and wrote a masterpiece. If Ascension made something really worthwhile to borrow from Mayakovsky I would have applauded. Alas, just that you will not find at the Ascension - People shavaet. People were obliged to shavat because People had to hawala is still in school at the lessons of literature. Or take the attitude of Soviet literature and art of Walt Whitman. Mayakovsky - a genius, but what about an admirer of Walt Whitman Eduardas Mezhelaytisom.

In the globe pushing his feet,
Sun bowl I keep on hand.
.....
So I stand:
I am a man
I am a Communist.

In between this posturing, we learn that Mezhelaytis cut from his brain all in a row - the ships, ore trains, rockets, and throws the earth smiles the sun. However, in a moment of remorse Mezhelaytisa is quite amusing poem which sheds light on past cultures. It is about the poets, there are such lines:
Do not believe them,
They will drain you in a flash
Your machine,
Villas and notes ---
After enjoying their impoverished world
Only a loser and can bankrupt ...

Next Mezhelaytis calls to build a life in which poetry would be inappropriate. I do not think that the only loser and a bankrupt can enjoy the art world of Shakespeare and Pushkin, but the Soviet literature in this way. Substitution effect in the notorious Alyonka precisely in order and was intended to zapudrit brains and create as many failures and bankruptcies. If the Orthodox culture of the early 20 th century, is fully applicable question - what it good, if it did not save the country from the October catastrophe - that the culture of the Soviet 60th years of this issue is also pertinent - some sense of this culture, if people have been brought up within it, live to perestroika and became losers and go bankrupt.

The question of the Bankruptcy culture is quite pertinent in relation to the majority of authors and works. Take the Island of Crimea Aksenova and read carefully. What is clear dawn shone in his international relations, as he describes the Crimean Tatars as a rosy picture of women's emancipation! If we read with pencil in hand, the output is simple - a provocation and sell. And the other side, writers villagers? For decades, they vparivali city dweller inferiority complex towards the village. City - the evil, the village - the roots of morality and ethics, the church let the censer. Well, go to where the village has been preserved, for example, in the village Kushchevskaya. There are problems with bandyukov, immoral and insatiable greed in bulk. With the example of someone to take? With the hoe or the inability to resist them? And in a country theme, we again find something similar. For example, Viktor Astafyev with king-fish. Compare it with the source novel - a novel Hemingway's Old Man and the Sea. Where individualism, freedom, strength of spirit, unconquered? Clearly, the comparison is incorrect, since all asked ourselves this question in time, when the novel has clearly read, get good advice to go tries. Question for a very logical, because during the restructuring of villagers licked the heel of the CPSU, and called to save the country from the conversion until the Communist Party collapsed. That is, they have become independent by events, rather than by their own desires. And then there was a genuine miracle - ended the Communist Party, ran the notorious villagers as writers. Journalism writing, Viktor Astafyev even became an ardent Yeltsinites, and to literary work were unsuitable. They became losers and go bankrupt.

Udachnikami were only those who have stopped writing, and communication. For example, Alexander Rosenbaum, very ably described in the songs of joy banditry and murder of women, "Semana, zasun her ribs ... Look, is not broken off pen!". Now he sells vodka Boston Waltz and makes a business. It's like a reminder of what we would end up Vysotsky today with his thieves cycle. As one of the options would produce the vodka "Your friend, Volodya." Still, a noticeable quantity, submit it to the program Relish uncomfortable - and now our leading Volodya will show us how to make steak and eggs and mayonnaise. Here Okudzhava - whole personality. Quiet hapnul money doing amnesty of criminals in the commission Pristavkin, and went to live out his days in Paris. There's comfortable and not to work.

Genre crisis not only in the works. Remained Vysotsky's songs, Tarkovsky's Solaris, some songs of Okudzhava and Sixties as the flow remains. Although previously we could speak of several trends, but it's for art and the viewer or reader does not want to torment yourself. Crisis in a different genre. Individual "creators" are perceived differently. The authors are not sinless. There are writers whose behavior is seen calmly, "Well, Mayakovsky was a hysteric, and it does not matter Well, drank Vysotsky and stuff, yeah, okay. Nobody cares about that unit welcomed the Bolsheviks - it happens zafantazirovalsya. But Okudzhava, forgiving Georgian criminals in the commission Pristavkin or Astafiev privestvovavshy firing from tanks in 1993, is something fundamentally different. Take aback by Aksenova, who was always dissatisfied with Russia, had gone to the U.S., and the fat, Yeltsin was the bread and dust from Konchalovsky, who could make films in Hollywood, but rather together with Peter Listermanom create a "model" agency in Moscow and supplying prostitutes oligarchs. Even seemingly innocent Yunna Moritz recently broke the verse "A beautiful pilot Viktor Bout, where sings the carrier arms and drugs. That's right, who all his life fatten at the expense of relations in the publishing and Glavlit, good from bad and old age does not distinguish. For twenty years, we demonstrate that lies behind this proud answer to critics and a little bit smart people - can go tries, shut up and do not interfere People hawala.

There is such a liberal concept of perestroika - zapadlo. The Lord is in trouble, they do not read, they are not interested. When they are criticized, they are in the old spirit scream - hey, athletes, our beat. Helps a little, to revive interest in their shapes can only be those they once sent away and even farther. Well, you can stop, only to praise them zapadlo. All the tricks, they'll cut a long, long ago explained. Some aggressive minority, no matter from which camp wants one - to split society into two parts, a certain weight and those who can compete with them or sees through. Capable of won, but by the throne. Then they fail and begin to appeal to those who are pushed aside, they say, we will not beat themselves, and belabour hands of athletes. Comes new growth begins to imitate the sixties and also wonders why her zapadlo extoll. Normal people will not praise or Sorokina Akunin. Well, they gave them money, so they can write and not be distracted by other things. This is what we all passed. Professionalism as blat, blat as professionalism. Advance at the rate of two or three thousand bucks a month. Five thousand of the official edition, fifty informal. Stranger to the 50,000 will give nothing, your provide. Sixties had died and was reborn. Moving Together, a book burning Sorokina to its existence have learned readers. Kremlin pull as a source of scandal, providing literary existence. You guys are too repeated tries themselves go.



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Старый 03.12.2010, 00:23 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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Reading the "speech long empty ...", but if you call in the manner of presentation of the author-nonsense, always remember to respect aged people.
How do they react calmly to this, such as Ascension:


I love my critics.

On the neck of one of them,

fragrance and goals,

antigolova shines! ..



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Reading "speech long empty ...", but if you call in the manner of presentation of the author-nonsense, always remember to respect aged people. How do they react calmly to this, such as Ascension:

I love my critics.
On the neck of one of them,
fragrance and goals,
shines antigolova !..
You press secretary Ascension on a voluntary basis?
Generally, in article about the phenomenon, and not about personalities concrete.



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Старый 03.12.2010, 00:44 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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Different People hawala different, that's the "honey, shit and nails" from the author's fans found the same.


I think this formulation is closer to the paper and the style and the meaning



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Different People hawala different, that's the "honey, shit and nails" from the author's fans found the same.


I think this formulation is closer to the paper and the style and the meaning
The article did not like, can be seen on the emotions.
But, in my opinion, the diagnosis is made correctly.
Is not it?



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But, in my opinion, the diagnosis is made correctly.
That for the diagnosis and what he delivered?
Is there a disease?
Who?



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In essence, the question I want to post it next
artcol, "The subject matter - a reaction to" the public "the death of Bella?
Ie you, along with the author of the article (by the way, who is he? - I do not know) think idols 60 false and the values of this generation are no longer relevant? Because their lifestyle does not match the "high ideals" (whose?) And someone in the old "hapnul" and "left to live out? But Rosenbaum has emerged here.
You know, I first looked into your profile to look your age. Previously, I had no excuses. If you really 34 (great age!), Then your concern about the existence of these "old man's" values - and not just in the aesthetic sphere - is understandable. So, actually, it should be, they say, "for life". Values of fathers become clear skin, when we hit their age. And their fears, too. And their choice. Becoming a good, just too late.
As for Bella, it was a rare female jewel. Of course - a symbol. And it is clear that this young character is no longer readable. But everything will fall into place. With time.
I will not forget a few years ago, when she handed over some State Prize in the Kremlin, it is 20 minutes (eyewitnesses say -40) read poems - rather than acceptance speech. And they listen. This is what is left, we can say will. Without pathos say how I feel.
And the article said frankly vile. In a lot of everything. And with the trend.



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Guys, you too recurs, go yourself tries.
Once you've posted here this text, it means you are somehow interested.
What?
In addition here is that at the end.

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And the article said frankly vile.
Agreed.
The thought "all the rams" - is not interesting and not new.
Form ornate and boring /hamovataya.



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I can not vouch for the absolute accuracy of the quotes, but the diarist FF Vigel, born more of Catherine, said that much knowledge for a fool like greasy food for the weak of stomach: it is always nonsense .

In my opinion, is the same case. On the text and its author can tell a lot, but I will say one thing: I am sorry for him.



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Once you've posted here this text, it means you are somehow interested.
What?
In addition here is that at the end.


Agreed.
The thought "all the rams" - is not interesting and not new.
Form ornate and boring /hamovataya.
Yes, interested, of course, so I and posted it on the forum. In the text of so many different issues and challenges put autopsied, but reading the comments here, I understand that all "past the cashier." But let them hang, do not think anyone against MB has to comment on Mr.


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"Riddle, riddle, - he says - many try, they do not take. Still, Russian art is different in that it, as it turns out, much less integrated into international structures, even worse than Eastern Europe. We have some other ...".




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