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Старый 28.01.2010, 21:30 Язык оригинала: Русский       #61
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Pledge success of any gallery-developed secondary market of works of art, which in our country in its infancy sostoyanii.Nado think about shaping the future, at least in the mass market, look for tools that rynka.Eto important untwisted separate galleries.



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I will dare to express my amateur opinion.
To create a regional gallery from scratch with an eye to a successful business, you should first explore all the interesting work of regional artists. Write in the head at least a rough picture of the possible show that you can collect and spend during the year - group, personal papers, etc.
Organize the gallery space so that it was a place for permanent and for one - two exhibitions.
Think, who is alleged to be its customer base gallery.
 And very good to think about how to attract these customers, organize a kind of club or something. Includes some famous, fashion, people.
 Because it is unlikely that someone could come from the street and buy the work for a decent price. One job is still possible, but always - is unlikely.
If funds allow, you may publish a magazine, which published as serious material about contemporary art, investment, and about the work of artists the gallery and even photos from the presentations of exhibitions - every good streak in the reports on such events. The magazine is sent to potential clients for free.
Try to establish good relationship with the press and television to the announcement of exhibitions, review findings that people were pulled, so to speak, to the art.
Perhaps, ideally, to create the names of the group's most promising artists - print catalogs, export exhibition in the capital, including the European. You can take pictures and bought a book to interest them, to engage in the process.
Then you can expand the circle of artists, fall outside the region. While support for "their" - that in itself is very large and important addition to the business.
 In general, a plan for a year or three years, with the maximum number of ideas for each item. Calculate the financial side, and if not rashochetsya risk, take up and act.
Maybe it's naive, but it seems to me, inspiration, desire + availability of funds is a very good combination for the beginning of the case. Still, good job galleries - not just business, but also the creative process, and then somehow bleak look at the prospects. But the pleasure of something guaranteed in any case.




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Старый 28.01.2010, 23:32 Язык оригинала: Русский       #63
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And again we return to the main question of what artists do gallery, especially if you plan overseas exhibitions.
Do we have the seeds of something new that could develop into a new direction, if not entirely different from the international, but at least it for in-equal?



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Старый 28.01.2010, 23:56 Язык оригинала: Русский       #64
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And perhaps not so important - always look for something new?
 Maybe look to the individual, which is not necessarily a revolutionary and innovative, but will simply carry some personal and unique features. People will feel it.
 After all, art does not necessarily have to be something like the electric shock machine.
 "Our on international", perhaps, lower scale, but more reflects the personality of the artist??



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Старый 29.01.2010, 00:10 Язык оригинала: Русский       #65
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And, perhaps not so important - always look for something new?
 Maybe look to the individual, which is not necessarily a revolutionary and innovative, but will simply carry some personal and unique features. People will feel it.
 After all, art does not necessarily have to be something like the electric shock machine.
 "Our on international", perhaps, lower scale, but more reflects the personality of the artist ???
This is called a lack of significant differences, in this case, it inevitably leads to a strategy of low prices, and does not preclude long term sales, but excludes the possibility of creating high demand. Profitable in this case do tirage works.

For exclusive, sought after and elite want to create (not necessarily actual) set of unique identification firmly secured to the artist /group in the minds of buyers. With a group of artists has yet to provide an opportunity to meet different tastes, and of course increases the effectiveness of advertising.



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Старый 29.01.2010, 10:01 Язык оригинала: Русский       #66
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And again we return to the main question of what artists do gallery, especially if you plan overseas exhibitions.
Do we have the seeds of something new that could develop into a new direction, if not altogether different from the international, but at least it for in-equal?
Maybe enough of the original, meet on equal terms, they have this good a dime a dozen , also Inditsy and Chinese and all the same.

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key to successful operations of any picture-developed secondary market of works of art, which in our country in its infancy sostoyanii.Nado think about shaping the future, at least in the mass market, look for tools that rynka.Eto important untwisted separate galleries.
What kind of tools? There is something other than an auction. Read the history of Impressionism in the letters and documents, only when vyvosli prices, even in America, and thanks to the Drouot auction in the future, they survived.

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This is called the absence of significant differences, in this case, it inevitably leads to a strategy of low prices, and does not preclude long term sales, but excludes the possibility of creating high demand. Profitable in this case do tirage works.

For exclusive, sought after and elite want to create (not necessarily actual) set of unique identification firmly secured to the artist /group in the minds of buyers. With a group of artists has yet to provide an opportunity to meet different tastes, and of course increases the effectiveness of advertising.
This is for sellers. For artists this means poverty, and conversely the merchant receives a large number of works for sale.
Ktoto gathered to wait for when the middle class, but who said that they would buy the painting? Throughout the world, a lover, who bought the painting from an unknown artist (Koons n-p) can sell it at Sotheby's n-p and become even average. but just the rich. The middle class is not clever inventions and dishonest to say the least people. (This by the way)
Elite is not that komuto like (elite) is very expensive.




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Marta,
 No addition to Moscow (maybe even Peter). Uvy.sozdat full gallery means to work in ubytok.Kollektsionirovanie painting available edenitsam.prakticheski nothing has changed over the last 15-20 years. One unit of these acquiring directly from artists or their naslednikov.a just liked to work with Moscow to vystavok.Dostupa prakricheski no.
Maybe a little teme.Horosho if not on this site and other artists sold their work to collectors, not just dilleram.a collectors (no longer a question and otrebutatsii works). Then their work can become more accessible to mene obozreniya.v different regionah.Admin survey hudozhnikov.mozhet and they have this interest.



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Старый 29.01.2010, 10:17 Язык оригинала: Русский       #68
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What kind of tools? There is something other than an auction. Read the history of Impressionism in the letters and documents, only when vyvosli prices, even in America, and thanks to the Drouot auction in the future, they survived.
Pavel, tell me - you can now buy your painting directly from you?

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Admin survey hudozhnikov.mozhet and they have this interest.
I do not understand what a poll?



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Старый 29.01.2010, 10:30 Язык оригинала: Русский       #69
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Pavel, tell me - you can now buy your painting directly from you?


I do not understand what a poll?
You know you can buy, I am for this like all the artists work, the case in prices. I have more experience and work for peace. I noticed that foreigners have it easier, though not always profitable, because they are traded. What we all know, finished, and understand, and most importantly money sorry. Buy that hung in the dining room can be a reproduction, but for that kind of money-what to sell? - Not where or namuchaeshsya. Karyachishsya work, and Required 600-1000 $ ridiculous.



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Старый 29.01.2010, 10:39 Язык оригинала: Русский       #70
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Karyachishsya you work,
a terrible definition of his work ...

If you can buy right now you have to direct, and even bargain, why wait for auction to the buyer?
By this logic, the sellers of bread in the store, too, need to sell it through auction, to increase revenue. And in general all sell everything through auctions. So?



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