How to create a good gallery?

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Konstantin

For some reason, remembered: "Who now plays jazz, tomorrow will sell the Motherland."

I understand, a man waiting for opinions about what is (what direction) and in the near future will be in demand.

Sell-yaimel in view of act dishonestly to deceive, to sell commercial painting or forgery. In short follow the path of easy money and temporary success.

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Сообщение от vall

I think the market will be of interest to business solutions "museum, art gallery, auction house turnkey
Prof. investors difficult orentirovatsya in the dynamics of trends on the art market, thereby there is a backlash, I do not understand I will not invest.
But when you create a friendly business solutions to key development strategy for 10 years, with revenue 20%a year, I'm sure Professor. investors will seek to diversify the risks in their portfolios to acquire such assets.

Once again, examine the experience of auction Hotel Drouot.

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Сообщение от artcol

Actually, strictly speaking, all investments with a view to weld on the resale "are speculative.
So, perhaps, the question can pereformulirovt so: what is conservative, and that such ventures investment?

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Strange question. I always believed that the demand artists.

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Paul, now also buy contemporary art. In your argument some strange logic, a little upside.

Modern art is not something that for some reason, Kandinsky Prize. This is much more that includes all modern artists, regardless of the direction, but only talent. Freud-realist, like David Hockney, etc. Talent does not make them look.

[LCR]

Сообщение от artcol

Actually, strictly speaking, all investments with a view to weld on the resale "are speculative.
So, perhaps, the question can pereformulirovt so: what is conservative, and that such ventures investment?

This - as on the exchange: that conservative investment is aimed at preservation of capital (an example - real estate, which does not bring in income, but protects the capital). In the art market is mainly the work of old masters: it is difficult to speculate on them, as well as abrupt changes in price are very rare (perhaps only surprise with attribution), but the price for them is constantly increasing with the accuracy of the pendulum.
Speculation - buying in order to quickly sell a substantial profit (personally, I'm in speculation on the art market, given its low liquidity and extremely high costs, do not believe).
Agree to buy the Rembrandt etching or drawing Delacroix less risky than Schnabel painting or sculpture, Koons?

Сообщение от artcol

Strange question. I always believed that the demand artists.

In my opinion, Konstantin rights: it is easier to untwist direction than the individual artist. Look, do not accidentally say about Italian Transavantgarde, artists San Francisco Bay, London, the Leipzig school, young English artist. Even when the artistic direction, so to speak, "stated," some names are out ahead, others remain in the shadows ...

[Konstantin]

While I was pondering how to explain his thought dohodchevee LCR all told - briefly and clearly.
1) Do they have a new fashion trend?
separately in the world, apart from us.
2) There is another point about "the perfect gallery and examples.
Not sure that he understood what they mean. Ideal where not cheat? Or where many earn?
Or on the other hand, that now more demand on the market: the gallery where all on a bit and 19 century classics and the avant-garde and icons in the corners. Or strict orientation: the sixties (as an example).

[artcol]

Сообщение от LCR

This is - as on the exchange: that conservative investment is aimed at preservation of capital (an example - real estate, which does not bring in income, but protects the capital). In the art market is mainly the work of old masters: it is difficult to speculate on them, as well as abrupt changes in price are very rare (perhaps only surprise with attribution), but the price for them is constantly increasing with the accuracy of the pendulum.
Speculation - buying in order to quickly sell a substantial profit (personally, I'm in speculation on the art market, given its low liquidity and extremely high costs, do not believe).
Agree to buy the Rembrandt etching or drawing Delacroix less risky than Schnabel painting or sculpture, Koons?

In my opinion, Konstantin rights: it is easier to untwist direction than the individual artist. Look, do not accidentally say about Italian Transavantgarde, artists San Francisco Bay, London, the Leipzig school, young English artist. Even when the artistic direction, so to speak, "stated," some names are out ahead, others remain in the shadows ...

Liana, then we obtain a substitution of concepts: investment - investment in order to multiply the means. And in the case of conservative investments we are actually talking about preservation, preservation (with, and real estate (more), and art (to a lesser extent) are inherent in the cost of ownership, and sometimes small) extra money to e-nowhere to attach.

With regard to speculative investments: if there is a wave, you can hurry up and catch. Such a moment was up to 2004 with socialist realism. But we must understand that such things always have and will.

As to the "direction or the artist: it is looking to more - the direction or the artist. Artist Roginskii I do not assotsiruetsya with some direction

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Konstantin

While I was pondering how to explain his thought dohodchevee LCR all told - briefly and clearly.
1) Do they have a new fashion trend?
separately in the world, apart from us.
2) There is another point about "the perfect gallery and examples.
Not sure that he understood what they mean. Ideal where not cheat? Or where many earn?
Or on the other hand, that now more demand on the market: the gallery where all on a bit and 19 century classics and the avant-garde and icons in the corners. Or strict orientation: the sixties (as an example).

When in the gallery a bit of everything, this means gallery owners did not understand and Stas. In this case, you can catch and counterfeiting, as gallery owners is like selling just to expensive.
Untwist is also a term of art historians, who must explain the artist for what he has to pay. The result is not important, it's usually not.
Artist's easier to unscrew the horde do not particularly understand and somebody slip through, then strain. Usually it is the tactics of our art incl. Tretyakov Gallery.

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Pavel

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That is hard with you nesoglasitya ...

[LCR]

Сообщение от artcol

Liana, then we obtain a substitution of concepts: investment - investment in order to multiply the means. And in the case of conservative investments we are actually talking about preservation, preservation (with, and real estate (more), and art (to a lesser extent) are inherent in the cost of ownership, and sometimes small) extra money to e-nowhere to attach.

It's not quite true. Talk about the property: as long as you own it, it brings you nothing but the cost and headache (or need to have a huge fleet of locative property, I have a friend who lives with this, but he has more than 100 apartments). But capital multiply. For example, the price of my - rather modest - apartment in Paris since 1994, when I bought it, has tripled. Of course, we must take it into account the cost of credit, all taxes, etc., but nonetheless sold it, I would have received a good profit. In this case, it is a theory, since I bought it, so we have to Misha could live in it, and the other apartments I have not.

I believe in conservative investing big question is this: I have x euros (dollars,). How many actually I have left after 15 years if I them frozen in a bank at interest (also a conservative, neriskovanny, but it does not hurt a profitable way to keep their savings - on the inflation front, and forgot to think interest rates are low, respectively, voznagrazhenie capital approaches zero), if I bought the property, if I buy, say, a picture of Courbet, Budena or trade mark, if I bought a 6.8 carat diamond, it is more profitable?
I have a friend whose father was offered as a wedding gift to his mother on the choice of either a two-bedroom apartment in a good area of Paris, or diamond. Unfortunately, she chose a pebble, which she now could not even buy a room for servants on the top floor without elevator.

I have not done the calculations, but I have the impression that with paintings by old masters 10-15 years of ownership, you recover costs (and they are very high - I have already said), save your capital for inflation and you get a little - and sometimes substantial - profit.

Сообщение от artcol

With regard to speculative investments: if there is a wave, you can hurry up and catch. Such a moment was up to 2004 with socialist realism. But we must understand that such things always have and will.

Quite agree. Add that this is risky: to not be extreme

Сообщение от artcol

about the "direction or the artist: it is looking to more - the direction or the artist. Artist Roginskii I do not assotsiruetsya with some direction

And here I agree, with a small caveat: Cezanne immeasurably more than sezannizm.
According to Monet or Pissarro this question does not arise - they are associated with Impressionism, and no component, so to speak, this equation does not suffer.
See the difference?

I mean, we are not talking about art, but only on its commercial aspect - we are talking osozdanii successful galleries, and it has no relation to art

Roginskii - fortunately or unfortunately - did not belong to any direction. But no one and no spins - so all the better in this best of all worlds

[artcol]

Сообщение от LCR

This is not so. Talk about the property: as long as you own it, it brings you nothing but the cost and headache (or need to have a huge fleet of locative property, I have a friend who lives with this, but he has more than 100 apartments). But capital multiply. For example, the price of my - rather modest - apartment in Paris since 1994, when I bought it, has tripled. Of course, we must take it into account the cost of credit, all taxes, etc., but nonetheless sold it, I would have received a good profit. In this case, it is a theory, since I bought it, so we have to Misha could live in it, and the other apartments I have not.

I believe in conservative investing big question is this: I have x euros (dollars,). How many actually I have left after 15 years if I them frozen in a bank at interest (also a conservative, neriskovanny, but it does not hurt a profitable way to keep their savings - on the inflation front, and forgot to think interest rates are low, respectively, voznagrazhenie capital approaches zero), if I bought the property, if I buy, say, a picture of Courbet, Budena or trade mark, if I bought a 6.8 carat diamond, it is more profitable?
I have a friend whose father was offered as a wedding gift to his mother on the choice of either a two-bedroom apartment in a good area of Paris, or diamond. Unfortunately, she chose a pebble, which she now could not even buy a room for servants on the top floor without elevator.

I have not done the calculations, but I have the impression that with paintings by old masters 10-15 years of ownership, you recover costs (and they are very high - I have already said), save your capital for inflation and you get a little - and sometimes substantial - profit.




Quite agree. Add that this is risky: to not be extreme



And here I agree, with a small caveat: Cezanne immeasurably more than sezannizm.
According to Monet or Pissarro this question does not arise - they are associated with Impressionism, and no component, so to speak, this equation does not suffer.
See the difference?

I mean, we are not talking about art, but only on its commercial aspect - we are talking osozdanii successful galleries, and it has no relation to art

Roginskii - fortunately or unfortunately - did not belong to any direction. But no one and no spins - so all the better in this best of all worlds

I would be tersely summarized
1) Still, the choice of conservative instruments /objects to invest the main criterion - reliability preserving capital, rather than yields on him. Although of course, the latter always is present (for they are conservative ). At the other extreme - a venture capital investment. Everything here is exactly the opposite.

2) If we talk about the gallery, then, of course, - is easier to position in the direction or something abstract detection?. But buying some artists, to-e and make this area interesting and popular. Therefore, the word direction here in my opinion is misleading, I would have talked about the outlook, the platform, style, etc. and under it picked up interesting artists . Meaning limit yourself some frames do not see

3) At Roginsky: as one?

[LCR]

Сообщение от artcol

2) If we talk about the gallery, then, of course, - is easier to position in the direction or something abstract detection?. But buying some artists, to-e and make this area interesting and popular. Therefore, the word direction here in my opinion is misleading, I would have talked about the outlook, the platform, style, etc. and under it picked up interesting artists . Meaning limit yourself some frames do not see

So in fact if the direction attracts interest, it is only thanks to the artists who it includes. But every picture has its own clientele, try to sell Magritte Gallery, specializing in pop dell'arte

Сообщение от artcol

3) According Roginsky: as one?

Well, I.
And how I divisions, as inquired generalissimo?
So it turns out - none.

But seriously: Roginsky do not untwist, it should just show.

[artcol]

Сообщение от LCR

So in fact if the direction attracts interest, it is only thanks to the artists, which it includes. But every picture has its own clientele, try to sell Magritte Gallery, specializing in pop dell'arte


Well, I.
And how I divisions, as inquired generalissimo?
So it turns out - none.

But seriously: Roginsky do not untwist, it should just skip.

1) Well what Magritte in Russia? "On our something bezrybe ...
2) So I think - no spins, and he unwound "A lot of work in RI?