Degenerate Art? Art of degenerates!

[Nedogonov]

Сообщение от Art-lover

The pathos of these guardians of the common good is always directed to the protection of Truth, Goodness and Beauty. But for some reason, these high values of such patronage are beginning to look as if they had not really soaked in formalin, and in cadaveric poison. Where there shalunishke Hirst with his cows.

And I knew, Art-lover, that you will find time to answer my reply! And apparently I am not alone - your fan on this site (judging by the abundance of thanks at the bottom of your post, where as the Western Wall came your fans).

So that's what he's like - a local Joshua!

You disappoint me at once, however. Infinite, the sad (as in bench starevschitskoy) shaking up quotations and falsification of facts. And then, after a shamefaced retreat

 

«putting the question logically implies the following:»

  - Should flow with the gag "curls", generally have no meaning and intended only for "a grateful audience."

Or another "gem":

could point by point to show that almost all that Nedogonov wrote on themes of art, or false, or tendentious stretch, or an empty platitude

You - so prove it. For example, I, too, could easily prove that the Art-Lover - not man!

You are not lazy nadergat quotes from my post. Alas, only this unoriginal, manipulative Admission (favorite weapon Media-shnyh hack writers) and you have learned.

For example, as in your "list Art-lovera», intended to accuse me of obscurantism, horrible phrase "heresy Judaizers, legalized in scientific usage? This is to ensure that when you could call me an anti-Semite? This calculation only on the dropouts.

With this "secret weapon" even the greatest monuments of human culture can turn into the extremist works, using only the quotes and not explaining the surrounding context.

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«When close to the city, to fight with him ... lay siege against it. And give it to Hashem, your Elohim, in thine hand, and smite with the sword all his men. Only women and small children, and cattle, and all that will be in town, all the spoil thereof, take me, and the spoil of thine enemies, that Hashem, your Elohim, gave you. So deal with all the cities, distant from you is ... do not leave a single living soul, for a ban puttest you to them - to the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, prizeev, Jivi and the Jebusites, as commanded thee One, your God ... "(" Devarim », 20:10-18).
Well, this passage from the Torah, intended for the weekly readings (in our time already), calls for genocide? Of course not! So in my post there's absolutely nothing that you attributed to me and what I was trying to defame.

But the main thing is not even. The main thing that you consistently leads the question away from the essence of my message, which is limited to the following simple terms. I will cleanse them of unnecessary words (head shaved when stung lice, so that lice had nothing to grab):

• I do not like when exhibited in museums or excrement poured herself with them and call it art.
• I do not like when people are shitting in museums, public masturbate, copulate with animals and also call it art.
• I do not like it when art is called The Crucifixion with the Order of Lenin, replacing head Redeemer.
• I do not like when I was convinced that the form issued by the intestines "helps focus the masses (sparking zhargonchik where?) On the eternal, divine and humane" ...
  
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• I also do not like it when all this filth "triumphant march" ...
• Finally, I do not like the fact that my grandchildren, as well as grandchildren, other people can believe in this nonsense as a result of your efforts.

Here, in fact, all the ideas that I could not speak in conciliatory terms, and that you were "devastating" criticism. Do not zaporashivat their Dostum your umnichanya. In the topic for me, as I could, tried to explain them. Everything else is just invented you. He who has eyes, let see!

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Veronic

But why this should be removed if it is High Art and was exhibited glaring KievGallery «L'Art to the public?
Chichkan will represent Ukraine at the Venice Art Biennale this year.

And what we have there from Hai! And even more from Art? And the fact that he will be in Venice, there is nothing surprising - Ukraine is seeking his "heroes" - so here they are! Another will open wider, and pants lead Ukraine to Europe!

[Veronic]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

"In private collection"? Who has been where such have seen?
Veronic, You're even Hirst exhibition in Kiev did not go, but about "museums" are talking about ...

At an exhibition of Hirst's not gone and will not go, and I have already said why.
And the exhibition Chichkan can and went to only repeat once more, aware. This is not art, it is entertainment, like strip or movie.
I can not understand why cheek is so cleverly fan in the gallery? Well, making fun of people, fun, well, let no one forbids, but that's why he is in geleree doing? And with what joy to the Biennale is going? Or there is also porn show?

[Yaya]

When Breton discovered my painting, he was visibly shocked soil her scatological details. I was surprised. The fact that I debuted in the city .., could then be interpreted from the standpoint of psychoanalysis as a good omen golden rain, which - of happiness! - One day threatened to fall on my head. I tried in vain to drum surrealist, that all these scatological detail can only bring good luck to all of our movement. In vain I called for help digestive iconography of all time - the goose that lays the golden eggs, intestinal obsession Danae, defecates gold ass - no one would believe me. Then I made a decision. If they do not want to g. .. which I so generously offered to them - well, so much the worse for them, all these gold mine would get me one. So the famous anagram "Avida Dollars", "thirst for dollars," carefully selected Breton, twenty years later, could justifiably prophetically up already at that time.
Suffice it to me was to take place in the bosom of the Surrealists just one week to see how Gala was right. They showed a certain tolerance for my scatological subjects. But outlawed by putting a "taboo" to many others. I easily recognize here the same restrictions that have been suffered in his family. I was allowed to depict blood. Optional
I could even add a little doubtful there. But kaku no additives, I have not had the right. I was allowed to show genitals, but no anal fantasies. At any ass looked very askance. For lesbians, they were very friendly, but it is not tolerated homosexuals. In the visions without any restrictions tolerated sadism, umbrellas and sewing machines, but any religious themes, albeit in a purely mystical terms, is strictly forbidden to all but the outright sacrilegious. Just dreaming of the Madonna by Raphael, not referring to any blasphemy - this one could not even stammer ...

[Veronic]

Yaya, so I think if porn would be called high art would then interest in them or not?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Veronic

And with what joy to the Biennale is going?

Would you like to go Arthur Braginsky? : D

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Сообщение от Veronic

Cyril, that's like me as you so naively put it, sometimes I think, seriously you are joking or if you please ?.....

Yes, naive ... : shy: But I do not know how to express it even easier to understand me? Can low? : eek: It will be closer, I think some of the participants ... : D: D: D

[Veronic]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

You would like to go Arthur Braginsky? : D

 
very funny, but if you go ,.... Cyril, then it slid to the theme?
 
Continue, for lovers of high .... Taken from the same article, about Chichkan
 
Lyudmila Bereznitsky, who wrote the documentation for the project Chichkan overate henbane and gave out completely insane verbal constructions:
"Porno" long no one is shocking, appearing in the pages of glossy magazines, and even more briefly browsed through lowbrow and not worried readers. It seems therefore as if the artist wanted to enliven our senses in relation to the sex act, and add her interpretation of the situation of loss of pornography industry of its "legitimate" places, and thus to focus our attention on sex, and as erotic feelings, and how to love. "
 
And then the journalists apparently mocked the words of art critic .... yes, yes, sometimes it happens, can you imagine? : D Actually, I can not imagine an art critic in this situation, it is absurd they looked ....
 
"All this, and the statements Bereznitsky that the project« Pornopop »shocking and provocative, of course, is nonsense and intellectual meningitis. Find beautiful concepts to projects Chichkan - this is a completely unfounded masturbation, for which, obviously, is hiding fear Chichkan submit art as it is, the desire to give him a kind of artistic polish, which is criminal and immoral when we are dealing with contemporary art. In «Pornopop» should not be anything but simple human bang, which was erected Chichkan in the form of a "muddy pop art" for the crowd, the audience of all ages. "It's just sex. It is an art as an economic and media-method. Type members. tit Type. That's all. No other underpinnings here. And it's good. There is an erection ? And it's good. "

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Veronic

if porn would be called high art will then interest in them or not?

What you something is bothering you? Will-not? Where the public good? It is important to you?
Or worried about your grandchildren?

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Сообщение от Veronic

Cyril, what with the themes that had descended?

On what topics? Discuss the exhibition at which we were not with you? Stupid ...
Articles from yellow to discuss books? Even more stupid ...
Moan about the "unenviable buduyuschem" grandchildren? I do not have ...
What have you can combine this theme?
By the way, I am in general very interesting Ukrainian disassembly, your Chichkan, Pinchuk, tobacco ... This is for you there is a close ...

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Yaya

Interestingly, one of righteously indignant when reading something Salvador Dali?

Read more and life history of S. Dali. And you will realize that part of the body, a piece of shit and so do not pass in vain, without affecting the brain ...

[Veronic]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

What have you can combine this theme?

Cyril, we're high art of debating

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

By the way, I am in general very interesting Ukrainian disassembly, your Chichkan, Pinchuk, tobacco ... This is for you there is a close ...

Cyril and what you as soon renege on their opinions? You vehemently supported the opinion of the defenders of Conceptual artists.