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Old 29-07-2012, 22:52 Original language: Russian        #31
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With respect to the portrait can still be allowed (especially photographs) that your option is to sketch in relation to what was sold at auction
I am afraid that in this case, you should not let this happen.
Where are your eyes?

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Please note that many elements are registered in another.
Well, yes, the one you show, not a shadow on his face, and cadaveric spots ...
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Old 29-07-2012, 23:22 Original language: Russian        #32
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it may be better to talk about the work ,
About the work :
The difference is visible to the naked eye , even from here. Moreover , it is not is the difference in detail , and the difference in skill of execution,
and it is not in favor of work, you have shown , maket.

Imho: that is, it's not a repetition , or sketch of the author's and do not reach the level up , the other is not very skilful hand.

Strange story : pedigree - yes, of course , the possibility of the existence of a portrait of your great-grandfather in the family archives - yes, but ...?

Still, reminisce , porassprashivayte - Do not give under any pretext work from home for a while? Spend your investigation, if all you say - true.



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Old 29-07-2012, 23:40 Original language: Russian        #33
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And how the family left the "first" portrait, which sold at Sotheby's ? With a copy of which was written later . After all, he said, as I understand it , was to belong to the brother of your grandfather ? What is your relative has sold a portrait, and then ordered a copy of Annenkov ?
 By the way, to create a copy (and this is a copy), the artist had to have before him , or himself , or at least a portrait photo. It is hard to imagine that Annenkov made ​​a copy of his portrait from a photograph ..... <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
About the picture itself I do not say anything here without me there is enough said ....


They say that good an artist is hard poddelat.Naydite 100 differences. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
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Portrait of the house will not be issued and is not exported . If you would like someone to make a copy , it would not engage in " liberties ." Why did not match the dates on the back? And most strtannoe why the paper has the same manufacturing flaws , as if the sheets were taken from a stack , one after another ? Unfortunately, the photos in a good quality Available Now Bonhams. Maybe someone will try to find it, so you can compare. Unfortunately , there is no representation of the signature on the reverse side of the "first" portrait.

Once again, that the greatest collector, connoisseur of the best works Annenkov and the man who was personally acquainted with him - Rene Guerra , the portrait has caused real delight . Like any smart and experienced man, having some doubt, the text of which I have quoted .



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That such work was in the Russian Museum in the examination in 2006.
The result is negative.


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The work was from 01 November 2006 to March 29, 2007 in the Russian Museum , but the museum refused to make examination, citing the lack of relevant experts. We asked for an official response , but in this case was rejected.
The work was at the State Hermitage Museum from 02 June 2011, but refused to give here a formal conclusion.
The work was in the department of art Academy of Arts, St. Petersburg , where a privately held consultation on the authenticity of the work . The names do not remember , but remember the name and patronymic ( Tatiana ), not questioned the authenticity . The same assessment also gave Guerra .



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In the Russian Museum?
Very interesting ...
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Old 30-07-2012, 10:55 Original language: Russian        #38
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Almost everyone who saw the portrait, said that there would be no doubt about the authenticity , not to be "first" portrait.

History is certainly not easy , but we are confident of the authenticity of our portraits and why are not afraid to present it to any expert and any examination.

Weight of a very large and it seems to me , so long as no one dared to give a formal opinion.



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That such work was in the Russian Museum in the examination in 2006 . The result is negative.

Regards ,
Something I have not found differences. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

So it will be easier to compare.

P.S. It seems the differences between the proposed work here , and " negative " work of the Russian Museum - no, there are differences only in a photo. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Cut the picture for clarity.
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Something I have not found differences.


So it will be easier to compare

This is a photo of the same work.
Need to compare with the one that sold at Bonhams in 2004.



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