Single feature ranking

[Ольга Озолина]

Сообщение от fabosch

With all my respect totally non-hostile to the rating, can not help but notice that the rating may not have any legal consequences. It is impossible to prosecute anyone (in the legal sense) on the basis of private opinions of individuals (ie, social organization, as it is called, "Union Artists", I think). From a legal point of view, their opinion is no different, for example, from my private opinion as an expert.
And that someone is doing an assessment work on the basis of this rating does not have no legal consequences.
Pardon moi.
Although, of course, the motives of your statements are quite clear.

Using EXP, of course, has no jur. consequences. But stuffed EXP (as well as any expert opinion) has. For example, when buying a picture of the buyer asks, "And gave Fabosh conclusion?" He was a gallery owner to answer "yes", and lime throw at the paper with forged signature Fabosha. When you find that piece of paper was fake, it is immediately cognizable. So with the score.
And then there is the law of copyright, piracy and of itself is not welcome there, even if it does not involve fake ((((

[Irina S]

In March of this year, still-life GH
Vashchenko appeared at auction in France, but was not sold:

164 Gauryla VASHCHANKA (1928 -).

NM aux pommes.

Huile sur panneau, signée en bas à droite, 35x38cm

5000/6000 €


http://www.stanislasmachoir.com/

[Михалыч]

Did not read all 35 pages, can be repeated.

But what makes this person in EXP (two-dimensional):


As I understand it - he was the editor, and "under him" ....

That was the reason for admission to EXP?

[Artoil-A]

Сообщение от fabosch

From a legal point of view, their opinion is no different, for example , from my personal opinion, as an expert.
And the fact that someone is making an assessment of work based on the rankings , not

Moreover rating does not refer to a morphological analysis , which makes it subjective. Also integrates primary and secondary markets, although pricing mechanisms are different.
On the basis of this rating can not predict the rise of skill of the artist and predict its market success.
In legal terms, rating, I think, is based on the Soviet legislation.
If, for example , the artist works on an individual basis , as an entrepreneur , the ratings do not need him . Especially if the artist co-owner of a company which carries out foreign trade activity.
I think that the rating of this did not think .

[Ольга Озолина]

Have not stopped by, I apologize.

Mikhailovich, thank you for paying attention. We spend on the hunt for a campaign of "dead souls." Basically, it is the conscience of the compilers of the directory in which we operate, or girls secretaries, directly populating the data (one implicit typo in name, for example, can lead to the fact that the artist then there is no mistake, and his "dead soul" hang out until it hits someone she knows.) We even recently bought the program "Similar Data for Excel", which tracks similar cells, but there are far more complicated cases than small mistake - for example, with double names, which are printed in a different order. Or in specifying data encyclopedias (apparently this is the case, for which you have paid attention.)

Artoil, EXP - ranking above all art criticism, and the prices for the artist play here, though important, but not decisive. And it is impossible to monitor in real time all the vicissitudes of price hikes in the secondary and primary markets (on this forum is a report Artprice, how it all collapsed, the horror.)
EXP also conservative in nature and technique, as the history of art, and is designed more for the fans than for professionals who need long and boring series of sales results (but which at the same time without a guide in the form of knowledge of the history of art still can not).

I asked the forum participants and by e-mail, and PM, the new release. Early next week, waiting for circulation (this is the 19th ed.). This is for those who prefer a book, and even regularly updated electronic version:
http://rating.artunion.ru/electronic.htm

And we now project "Rating galleries and antique shops" resume (just before it was called "Rating exhibition halls and art collections," we were up to 2003):
http://museums.artunion.ru

That's like all the news. Ask if that interest, I'm here

[klimvor]

SV ZAGRAEVSKY saw in 1000 the best artists in the world ....
Order a certain degree of courage he would go ... more
God, how I'm drunk.

[Ольга Озолина]

Сообщение от klimvor

SV ZAGRAEVSKY saw in 1000 the best artists of the world .... Order a certain degree of courage he would go ... more God I was drunk.

 

At one of the branches of drunkenness forum artists discussed, and I thought about it and found an article that we published 10 years ago in the "coffee" annex to EXP (No. 4). In my opinion, wonderful.

Nikita Ivanov
Drunkenness as a habitat ARTIST

In Russian art (at least in its arsenal scene) has never been naturalistic "feasts" Adrian Brouwer with such unsavory details as fights and stabbing, with unpleasant characters as upivshiysya reveler to Reese and his young companions. Most candid in this regard, that was present in the Russian fine plot, are peripheral images peredvizhnicheskoy painting: tipsy oskoromivshiysya army officer and father, drunk and journeyman ustatku zalivshy eyes farmer.
Naperechet we remember BrAZhN picturesque scenes of classic XIX century - "The Last Tavern at Town Gate," "Fresh cavalier", "Erofeich" kruzhalnye scenes and blur the faces of the wonderful and unique in its kind Solomatkin. In some ways, "cellars" and "drinking at home" the last in the history of art can definitely be compared with traditional types of Velazquez in his famous "bodegonah" (Spanish - "Tavern"). A sad complaint Leonid Solomatkin at the end of lives can serve as an epigraph to this article as a whole: "I am dying of alcoholism - deaf, blind ... As you see, in consumption ... Barely dragging his feet ... Am in need of a terrible ... ".

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This was a few exceptions, mainly Russian painting was rather bashful and incurious to the drunk Russian life. And I must say, this was not only the life of a drunken man in the street and commoners. A high percentage of drinkers in Russia has always given bohemia - actors, poets, musicians and, of course, artists. That's right, from the right side of the canvas, we can contemplate a beautiful, harmonious, serene landscape, and on the reverse side stared at us bitter, haggard face of poor guy's.
Already a household example of drunken painter was brilliant landscape Savrasov. Can arbitrarily justify the fall of this remarkable artist, educator, founder of the genre of dramatic scenery sad and humiliating circumstances of his life, but he was no exception to the general rule of "integrity, beauty and sobriety" among Russian artists.
Alas, drunkenness was and is probably the average norm than the amazing phenomenon of priests in the world of art. And the art itself - a sort of frenzied binge, not high spiritual mystery, as they like to say pathetically minded hypocrites. Russian art so remarkably organic and wild vinopiystvo soprirodny as well as a quiet, routine drinking. Of course, without exception - in fact there were sober classics, so what! Was the survivor, a moralist and a vegetarian Repin. Was refined intellectual and God-seeker Nesterov. Buddhism was inspired by the feat of perfection Roerich ...
Many looked great in his sober, chaste existence and as artists and as citizens. Yet most were exposed, though not a Homeric posiomania, but stable, genetically defined tradition of drinking. And those who did not drink, abstinence is perceived more slaves than conscious consecutive stoics. These days, they are called "tied", "filed", "encoded".
The roots of alcoholism in the past, people in the arts can be found in the social injustice, lack of ideals, in the background of gray, trivial life. Soviet painter, however, was depressed and just ideologization patetizatsiey life. Binge drinking has become a form of escape from the false reality, stilted social symbols. The post-Soviet artist of our time was quite terrified, very different - the cynicism and cruelty between the government and the creator, the commercialization of art, marketing priorities in the most delicate area of ​​human activity, its cosmic loneliness.
Well, all the lot of the artist alone, and alcohol - a good absorber of all his doubts, troubles and misfortunes. Besides drinking in Russia the intelligentsia was, as said, a classic, "shudder of evil," a sign of the pain of the soul, or rather, even its existence. How can you not intoxicate the brain, if they can not withstand the aggression of evil, ugliness of the real world? Totalitarian society, surrounded by a "thorn" is as hostile to the artist, as a democratic fetid swamp where all the lost landmarks. Therefore wine - a form of protection and assimilation of the artist in society, the state, in the world of evil.
In the twentieth century loom three main types of drinkers artists - masters of well-off, treated kindly by the authorities, drinking delicious, without strain, in good company culture, well-dressed people, artists, and opportunities to earn money to create reaching compromises, market conditions, and even hack, so thirst-conscience wine-drunk hysterical despise his duplicity forced, finally, the artists simply, without much reflection, but also each earned money supporting the pub, also in their own way trying to carbon monoxide in the smoke, eyes closed, not to think, remember and forget ...
Good news generalities about our common defects or, from another point of view - about our "velikomuchenichestve this pernicious sin" (thought respected contemporary cleric). Worse, when we call any names, even in the delicate tone discusses someone's fate. One can excuse here - and your own involvement in this disaster, or anecdote, and, accordingly, your hronikersky-detached tone or restrained harmless humor.
They say Filonov appreciated vodka for its taste and drank straight from a saucer. Konenkova workshop was next to the chic shops of "Armenia" and each Esenina already in advanced age in between sculpting liked to drink a bottle of "Aygeshata" or "Ashtarak". Corinne drank because his power is adjustable and Full Tilt, and colleagues treated closed and suspicious. Virtuoso historical revolutionary themes Sokolov-Scalia was drunk chudil - went to the shop for a pint in the admiral's uniform with a dagger from his rich costume props. Konchalovsky sibaritstvoval, like his pal the "Red Count," Tolstoy, good characteristic pattern of the classic "Michael, go for a beer!". Nyssa, not only because of the love for painting is presumed dead long before the actual death - for many years as a vegetable, lying in the poorhouse. Singer sports, health, strength and beauty Deineka could nicely and drink heavily. The finest Russian landscape Romadin consumed bitter, not only in order to keep warm in the winter sketches - but, to use, could in tears and praise of his colleagues, hugging, name unknown fellow geniuses. Stazharau, by contrast, used in drunk brawl and fight. Painter of God Radoman hangover for a beer with his eyes closed draw waitress Esenina. And recently the grave Radoman Vagankovskoye cemetery unknown unscrewed and stolen his bronze head (God, that before this cannibal villainy our humble drinking!). Too early burnt brilliant plot Peaks took illustrate Lenin masterpiece "Materialism and Empiric." It and pronounce it without a glass-hard, and even illustrated!
And then the drama grew. Popkov when leaving the drinking establishment at the absurdity shot collectors. Gushchin killed drinking buddies who for generosity indiscriminately treated to decent "kombinatskie" amount. Son of the president of the Tomsk Toll hanged himself, unable to bear the humiliation of apprentices and intelligent drunk. Mats jumped out the window, and before that was drinking and Pozega many marvelous pictures. Zverev selling for future glass masterpieces future clever collectors. Kingdom of Heaven and humble worker pencil and pen Kolenkova which fell to death from a tree in the open air in Tarusa! Oh, the home of creative artists - a separate issue, a special kind of collective creative libations!
At the recent opening day, dedicated to the 75th anniversary of Peter Ossovsky, the well-known pioneer of the "severe style" sad to recognize that the way to his famous series of Pskov was through a long system of bottles, since some of the people pose heroes agreed only through the store. So many had to sip with them and the artist.
Also want to finish the sad epitaph died at the age of Christ, "from the same diagnosis" poet Dmitry Blynskaya: "All the drunken to the skin, to the cross!". But talent does not spend on drink! These were all amazingly talented artists.
And I can not think of the national output of flour some penny morale, build moralizing faces, you just want to cry for them, and not to forget. Moreover, I do not in anybody throw a stone, the stone of me all the time pulls down.

[Дилетант]

Сообщение от Olga Ozolina ; 2310551"

Drinking becomes a form of escape from the false reality , stilted social symbols . The post-Soviet artist of our time was quite terrified , very different - the cynicism and cruelty between the government and the creator, the commercialization of art , marketing priorities in the most delicate area of human activity, its cosmic solitude .

With every sentence , either a truism or - pathetic Gil. Not an article, but a kind of educational material on the use of stamps. And pretentious , and helpless to the bone ( very rare , I must say , the combination ).
Word opus about nothing. Cake empty . Why is it written - is unclear. Why this is repeated in 10 years - turandotkina mystery ...

[Artoil-A]

Сообщение от Olga Ozolina

have not stopped by, I apologize.

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Artoil, EXP - ranking above all art criticism, and the prices for the artist play here, though important, but not decisive. And it is impossible to monitor in real time all the vicissitudes of price hikes in the secondary and primary markets (on this forum is a report Artprice, how it all collapsed, the horror.)

EXP also conservative in nature and technique, as the history of art, and is designed more for the fans than for professionals who need long and boring series of sales results (but which at the same time without a guide in the form of knowledge of the history of art still can not).

That's like all the news. Ask if that interest, I'm here

Real analysis of the art market, I found, for example, I carefully hide one of his specialty, but it was calculated on the basis of the legal analysis of the Russian export procedures and pricing one reporter, who asked me to co-operation.
Although I declined, but I have an example of a successful analysis, as it the hard way.
 I have published some of their arguments, and the discussion was that art in general in the Russian Federation did not analyze the technological and economic aspects. Most dealers are general conversation having little goes a reality.

[Ольга Озолина]

Artoil, the conversation is not even second-hand dealers , but just art that to the sale of products if they are related , it is only at the level of episodic examinations. But such an analysis - from the standpoint of "pure" art history - also needed, otherwise generally all landmarks will be lost, and the arts will be reduced to the level of an antique cabinet ( and even not an antique , but some of IKEA, which, in theory , also years through 500 will be antiques ).
On this subject, remembered another article 10 years ago :
http://artunion.ru/rating/article16.htm

Amateur, and I liked the article about drinking ... Touching it as an occasion on which I thought it truism , too, are sometimes touching, as there Pasternak - " Empty as zinc bucket, a truism ."
P.S. I will now Tryushu her cat , which in my avatar , and even call a truism , not only truffles