Anselm Kiefer (1945)

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Сообщение от LCR

I do not know how things stand with you, from my training and placement of my messages requires some diligence and time, they are designed for people like me who are interested in art.
So, I suggest you stop in to discuss the branches devoted to the art of political, social and other matters.

Nana, all have great respect for you and your contribution of interesting posts on this site.
"The dog buried" in the fact that you and all the French do not get outside as much the policy of the media. Therefore easier for you to concentrate on pure art.
Yesterday our president in his speech mentioned the art and how it should develop.
I can assure you now begin a new wave of settlement of people from the arts who want something a lick and so all these conversations are inevitable.
They are inevitable historically.
In our society, too much politics. You know me better than that from her damned depends our whole life. We can not get out of this rut and again descend into it every time because of bad roads. I hope you understand me.

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Сообщение от LCR

Kiefer like Chelishchev?
In my opinion, not at all - nor late nor early on.

On the other hand, no matter how pleasant to me to see that some - not too big - part of my stories is the forum response, the nature of this reaction is perfect, in my opinion, unsatisfactory.
Personally, I came to this forum because they thought that they say about art. If I was interested in a political plot structure, I would have enrolled in the appropriate forum.
There are too many talk about things neposredstvovannogo relationship to art is not available. At first, all this was happening in the arbor, and political subjects could not discover what I did. But now, I think there is almost no single branch, which would not be affected by this plague.

I do not know how things stand with you, from my training and placement of my messages requires some diligence and time, they are designed for people like me who are interested in art.
So, I suggest you stop in to discuss the branches devoted to the art of political, social and other matters.

LCR, as long as you do not give the possibility of doubt that your post is addressed to me, I consider it necessary to comment on it.
     As you probably have already noticed, your fruitful efforts are not unnoticed by me. I'll tell you even more, your theme on the content of some of the most informative in this forum. This topic is no exception. Despite the fact that an artist I was not close, I was curious to know about his work. That's why I tried to express his attitude towards his writings in the hope that the conversation will continue to our mutual satisfaction. How easily can be calculated, I had written 5 posts, three of which just directly related to the topic under discussion. And you could not help but notice that I'd never join a political discussion, except when flagrantly distorted the history of my motherland. But that is typical, I never initiated discussions about politics. Usually, I react to especially egregious cases of distortion of historical truth. I think it is generally characteristic of people who think that, of course, are true artists. Therefore not surprising that often in the subjects of art appear politically motivated withdrawal. Art itself is inseparable from the social processes that occur around the artist, part of which he himself is.
     The problem, I think, in another. And it is in fact, as being such discussions in our forum. After all, in itself a comment, similar to that exhibited I (http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...11&postcount=9), does not pose a threat "zabaltyvaniya" and vulgarisation topic. Such threats are of a dilettante and indeed impudent remarks. The main producer of such "product" on the forum is Cyril Syzransky (unfortunately, the posts confirming my words have been removed by the Administration). Provocation, rudeness, ignorance, have long been characterized his style of communication.
     It would be far more useful, respected LCR, if you, as a participant in the forum, which has undoubted authority, explained to Mr. Cyril Syzran, how to behave in polite society. This would help address the problem of flooding and excessive aggressiveness on the forum. After all, this is what makes any discussion, in which there are political issues (as it inevitably will), in a quarrel.
       Unpleasant and hopelessness of this enterprise are clear, so if you do not want to do this, you will find in me understanding. But I ask you to continue, do not blame the blame on a healthy and do not blame me for what I do not have any relation.

     Sincerely, Tiutchev.

[LCR]

Сообщение от Tjutchev

LCR, as long as you do not give the possibility of doubt that your post is addressed to me, I consider it necessary to comment on it.

No, Tiutchev, do not be such a hypochondriac
Was addressed to you personally, only the first part of the message (on Chelishchev), everything else was drawn to the whole community of lovers of fine arts, as evidenced by writing my personal pronoun "you" with a lowercase letter.

I truly believe that the forum is excessively politicized.
Since you have found themselves unfairly treated in public, publicly same answer you, but I ask everyone who wants to contradict me about the politicization and everything specifically related to the plot is not to do so in l /sec. - Let us ensure that Anselm Kiefer relative calm him, as it follows from the translated article, all these moral and political problems without us got!

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Сообщение от LCR

No, Tiutchev, do not be such a hypochondriac
Was addressed to you personally, only the first part of the message (on Chelishchev), everything else was drawn to the whole community of lovers of fine arts, as evidenced by writing my personal pronoun "you" with a lowercase letter.

I truly believe that the forum is excessively politicized.
Since you have found themselves unfairly treated in public, publicly same answer you, but I ask everyone who wants to contradict me about the politicization and everything specifically related to the plot is not to do so in l /sec. - Let us ensure that Anselm Kiefer relative calm him, as it follows from the translated article, all these moral and political problems without us got!

Thank you for your clarification. Perhaps because the first part of the post was addressed to me, the second part, I automatically received to your account. I am glad that he was mistaken.

Thanks again for information about my new artist. We are pleased to continue the discussion about his work.

     We Chelishchev is work that is very similar to the coloristic works Kiefer. Especially those in which he uses different shades of ocher and even apply this earth and coffee. But the main thing that makes them work, this kind of mood. Both artists make me similar experiences ...

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

I Chelishchev have work that is very similar to the coloristic works Kiefer. Especially those in which he uses different shades of ocher and even apply this earth and coffee. But the main thing that makes them work, this kind of mood. Both artists make me similar experiences ...

And I agree with LCR - nothing. We Chelishchev quite different, mystical nature of fear, and often it is not even the fear and confusion to the uncertainty and loneliness. And its effect Kiefer much stronger, of course.
In 2006, Kiefer made an exhibition with a dedication to Velimir Khlebnikov, to my understanding it is already too complicated, I hope someone kindly explain.

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Today is the birthday of Anselm Kiefer /Anselm Kiefer (March 8, 1945, Donaueschingen, Germany).

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Really love this artist!

On the background of the painting by Anselm Kiefer "Tempelhof"