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Сообщение от Konstantin

at the same time: name,

In no case.

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My report on the prices of paintings relates exclusively to the topic of "Local or global product."

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Сообщение от mikhael

Somehow it sounds too pejorative - repeat

For me - no, it sounds fine.

Repeat for the West and leave it at that - Russian phenomenon, in my opinion: classical ballet, realistic painting, musical classic.

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Сообщение от mikhael; 2631471 "

What kind of picture, you know? There are reproductions on the Internet?

It is known , of course.
The most expensive work to date Petrov- Vodkin sold through auctions :
1. " Still. Apples and eggs " , 1921, c /o , 35,5 x47 - 2,318,100 GBP ( 3,636,403 USD, 2,896,378 EUR)
Macdougall, s, 27.05.2012, Lot 16
2 . "Bob" c /m , 38x53 - 1,833,250 GBP ( 2,645,196 USD, 2,213,183 EUR)
Christies, 08.06.2010, Lot 41
3 . "Motherhood " 1922 , s /m , 80,5 x64, 5 - 1,071,638 GBP ( 1,777,419 USD, 1,258,795 EUR)
Macdougall, s, 11.06.2009, Lot 353.

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Сообщение от mikhael; 2631471 "

What kind of picture, you know? There are reproductions on the Internet?

It is known , of course.
The most expensive work to date Petrov- Vodkin sold through auctions :

1. " Still. Apples and eggs " , 1921, c /o , 35,5 x47 - 2,318,100 GBP ( 3,636,403 USD, 2,896,378 EUR)
Macdougall, s, 27.05.2012, Lot 16;

2 . "Bob" c /m , 38x53 - 1,833,250 GBP ( 2,645,196 USD, 2,213,183 EUR)
Christies, 08.06.2010, Lot 41;

3 . "Motherhood " 1922 , s /m , 80,5 x64, 5 - 1,071,638 GBP ( 1,777,419 USD, 1,258,795 EUR)
Macdougall, s, 11.06.2009, Lot 353.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky; 2632291"

It is known, of course.
The most expensive work to date Petrov-Vodkin sold through auctions:

Thank you. Wonderful still life. No one has such "space" still lifes. If for Petrov-Vodkin pay that kind of money, then it is understood and appreciated, it pleases.

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

For me - no, it sounds fine.
Repeat for the West and leave it at that - Russian phenomenon, in my opinion

But because of your own words that Russian « avant-garde of the first quarter (well, maybe one-third) of the twentieth century » this is not a "repetition" - hence, is not "stopped".
It seems obvious that the Russian art of the 19th century was part of European painting of the time and, moreover, it is very enriching. To call this a "repetition" means to keep in mind that the Russian artists were only imitators of their Western counterparts, and not created in comparison with them, nothing bright and interesting. But it is not so ...

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky; 2632241"

classical ballet, realism, classical music.

It is interesting that you mentioned literature. Why? After all, writing prose and poetry writing, novels and poems, too, not in Russia came up with. Why then Russian literature is also not called a "repetition" of Western European? ..
Perhaps the Russian art of the period did not generally achieved the successes that and Literature (in comparison, again, with their Western colleagues). At that obviously had his reasons. But Russian artists long before the "vanguard" had created a lot of interesting paintings. Let me mention just one name: Alexander Ivanov .
His "Walking on Water" - just like a sketch, but a true masterpiece. Thing, full of powerful thin "psychedelic" dynamics. If you tell me the Western "counterparts", I'll just grateful. And it is absolutely amazing stones, so picturesque in its fundamental nature? .. Naked boys on the banks of the Gulf of Naples - perfect harmony pattern (that is the real "Russian Space Art!"). And the head of Jesus - with him, perhaps, the strangest expression on his face and a look at the history of painting.
Just imagine for a moment - God forbid of course! - But imagine, as a thought experiment, that all would be lost painting Ivanov. Is it only for Russia will be a loss? Just think a minute, gone the picture of one of our local "imitators"! And God bless them, and other such bulk! No. It would be a huge loss for the world of art. Because Ivanov - the artist truly outstanding, not only by the standards of Russia. Yes, it is you yourself know better than me.

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Сообщение от mikhael; 2633121 "

But in your own words that Russian "avant-garde of the first quarter (well , maybe one-third) of the twentieth century" is no longer a " repetition " - hence, is not " stopped ".

Russian avant-garde - a happy exception , they should be proud of, but, alas, we have it in every possible way gnobit .

Сообщение от mikhael; 2633121 "

It is interesting that you mentioned literature. Why ?

Literature written in their own language , the literature is more complex than , for example, with the ballet or painting , whose language is understood by all , though , of course, Russian literature came out of the west .

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2633141 "

I just know that Russian artists a) learning from the western and b) have been under strong influence them .

To deny this would be a strange course . But the painting ( secular painting) appeared in Russia much later than in the West.

It is a pity that Ivanov you remain indifferent <! - ~ 2 ~ ->
But tell me, is it really none of Russian artists of the 19th century, or at least some individual pictures do not make a strong impression on you ?
Wrobel , for example? .. Serov ? ..

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Сообщение от mikhael; 2633151 "

But tell me, is it really none of Russian artists of the 19th century, or at least some individual pictures do not make a strong impression on you ?

So we are talking about different things I am about the impact of Western painting by Russian or Russian about the secondary relative to the west , and you - a " to impress you ". <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

So we are talking about different things I am about the impact of Western painting by Russian or Russian about the secondary relative to the west , and you - a " to impress you ". <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Deny the influence of Western painting by Russian would be just silly .
But as for the secondary ... It seems to me , the secondary painting can not make a strong impression . At the very least sophisticated audience . That is, exclude one another somehow , in my opinion. But be that as it may, I still wonder whether you produce something of Russian " doavangardnogo " art impressed ? ..

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Be that as it may, I still wonder whether you produce something of Russian "doavangardnogo" art impressed? ..

What you have been given my impressions?
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2633181 "

2 . me questions about the " experience " it is better not to ask - I feed my painting , I'm , you know, is somehow not up to the excitement of it , I admit, there are more impressive sum for it and the more they are, the more of an impression .

But then a question . Is it possible to profitably sell to Western collectors , say, Repin , Surikov , Levitan ? .. (well, other Russian realists of the same caliber and the time) .