Please help us to define and evaluate the author's picture

[annacz]

I photographed, but alas, the photo can not see anything, I'll try in daylight ...

[uriart]

annacz, send the photo signature in such a form as is, even in the dark.
Photos can be processed to the editor and try to read it.
Very similar to the following sponsors - Ginet, Kalmykov G or A Voronkov
Photos on mail uri49@rambler.ru

[annacz]

uriart, thanks, she sent photos to you on mail.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от redbor

If it is logical, it is highly unlikely that the artist will put their signature on the reverse side of the frame.

Very often, especially in the 19 century .. And in the middle of 20 century in every second scene is a signature on a stretcher, or on the reverse side of the canvas.

[redbor]

Сообщение от Eugene

Very often, especially in the 19 century .. And in the middle of 20 century in every second scene is a signature on a stretcher, or on the reverse side of the canvas.

Yes, it happens, but then the owner said, that the inscription on the frame.
  Interestingly, Levitan, Repin, Aivazovsky and so on. - See their signature on paintings. Clearly it painted and signed.
  And why is the sign frame or canvas with a turnover?
Can you explain?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от redbor

a frame or canvas with a turnover?

You are so kidding or seriously question asking?

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от redbor

And why is the sign frame or canvas with a turnover?
Can you explain?

Many artists have studios, so to speak, the "corridor system", when in his studio you get the general corridor.
Typically, empty, strained and bare canvas stretchers stand in the hallway near the door. Here, that they are not confused with other strangers canvases, artists and sign their property. And everybody immediately clear whose sub-frame, frame or canvas.

[annacz]

sorry, the words "Forty ..." located on a stretcher, and the one that can not be read - on a frame ... I think it says something like FM. And. (F.. M) .... Mov (lyuv). Take a picture, but apparently very bad. The picture was purchased in 30-ies in this stretcher, but I was told that the work itself is much older than .....: confused:

[redbor]

Canvas or stretcher is sobstvennst and mark her signature, is one thing.
A signature on the painting itself - this is to show the authorship of his work

Сообщение от dedulya37

Many artists have studios, so to speak, the "corridor system", when in his studio you get the general corridor.
Typically, empty, strained and bare canvas stretchers stand in the hallway near the door. Here, that they are not confused with other strangers canvases, artists and sign their property. And everybody immediately clear whose sub-frame, frame or canvas.

Yes, or when give Canvas tighten on a frame. But is it necessary then this stretcher uses exactly the one who wrote his initials?
  Why, then, are the same I. Aivazovsky, Repin, so any author - signed on the painting itself?
 

Сообщение от Eugene

In Aivazovsky dozens of paintings signed on the reverse side of the canvas, cardboard ....

... Well have at it some 10 thousand pictures and can be a dozen or so of getting caught,
A stretcher, canvas, so as not to be confused and not rested, clear
  But please explain, why does he own his work behind podisat decided?
And the show, please, if there is a photo

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от redbor

Yes, or when give Canvas tighten on a frame. But is it necessary then this stretcher uses exactly the one who wrote his initials?
Why, then, are the same I. Aivazovsky, Repin, so any author - signed on the painting itself?

You reason like a boy, sorry.
First, the canvas is stretched DO that as it paints a picture.
Secondly, as a rule, the artist himself stretches, and before it selects a canvas, I mean the structure of the canvas - its density. To make it clear bag of potatoes from the "coarse" sackcloth, canvas for painting - from the more "shallow".
Third, what is the point to take someone else stretcher? To the neighbors think badly of you?
Fourth, but for what you name? You do this like other people, as you distinguish?
If practical, the artist signed on the front side to curious spectators did not touch the picture on the wall, peering from behind who wrote it. : p