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[Konstantin]

If you delete the first post, the topic should be moved to "the site offers." Why is not there, and you can move. Only hardly we, after discussion, to be whatever we agree.
Our arguments are:
- The message should not be "blind", a potential buyer should get all the information, then a meaningful contact.
- Alas, there are crooks trying to "vtyuhat bullshit" and open discussion of what kind but no protection against it (the way I think that is very effective).
- We follow the commentary and is already well know to whose opinion should be listening for sure. And if a beginner to write a serious work - "falshakov" we (the administration) intervene openly or publicly.
- The market is not uncommon for trade "air" or other people's work and placement of photos and some protection from this too.

You can continue, but those reasons enough to keep our policies in force.
PS.
Today I received an email asking whether you can send a picture of Leonardo da Vinci "on watch" to assess and sales. Here's to these ads from appearing on the forum on an industrial scale, and we have our rules.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Konstantin

- the market is not uncommon for trade "air" or other people's work and placement of photos and some protection from this, too.

Most recent example of this: Albert Dyussan with
and Riedel.

[AlexSpb]

Constantine, I already wrote here that for the next foreseeable period of time to satisfy "writer starvation." All your arguments are clear and each of them would probably answer a quote from himself in this topic. But then again I have no one in this special issue do not support doing this is not going to, for any of my personal interest, as already mentioned, in this issue are not available.

At the same time stand by my opinion, which initially consisted only in the fact that for individual pictures, such as the one which started this topic, you can make exceptions to general rules.
And the purpose of introducing the practice of these exceptions was - to fix a situation in which the owners (and, hence, potential buyers) - expensive things, not too zhaluyut his attention SELL section.

In addition, the thought that there was no efficient "mechanism to protect suckers" to offer and really can not. Such, probably do not exist, because people are different, first of all, the complete unpredictability of action (by myself I know <! - ~ 1 ~ ->) And, then, with my, as they say, happiness, who- some of them will make a fateful purchase for a road that is not available to discuss things, and will join the ranks of such clochard (as seems to be called marginal in the "city of P"), from the word LOSHARA, nothing else!
And what, one wonders, after that I in my defense I can say!?

That's about as ... More than anyone of anything in this thread not going to convince. I guess it makes sense to keep it in memory, but if you remove, will not be offended, too.

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от AlexSpb; 2172181"

fix a situation in which the owners (and , hence, potential buyers ) - expensive things , not too zhaluyut his attention SELL section .

This diagnosis applies to the Internet in general and to the section on our website " selling" in particular.
In the Internet , in principle, are not yet ready (mostly ) put serious work dear . In other matters why only on the Internet ? Is going to the gallery you will see on the walls of most of these work? It is hardly likely they will show you from the store , once you realize in the real buyer, and not just " razglyadyvatelya " (apparently invented a new word enters into circulation ?) .

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от Konstantin

and not just "razglyadyvatelya" (apparently invented a new word enters into circulation?).

I heard that this phenomenon is called "zyring" - similar to the "shopping" <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от Vladimir

called "zyring"

Well, it is still a verb, not the definition of facial features.
"Loudmouth", "liar", "Papic," "Aligarh", "MP", "traffic cop" .... "falshakov", "razglyadyvatel."

[Зея]

"Zyring" may be a verb and a noun.
<! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[AlexSpb]

Сообщение от Konstantin

Is it going to the gallery you will see on the walls of most of these work? It is hardly likely they will show you from the store, once you realize in the real buyer, and not just "razglyadyvatelya"

The absence of pictures in the original description, this is a form of protection from foreign attention, which I think no one should be hurt. By sending a request to the owner of the photo, the potential buyer, perhaps, is to introduce myself to write a few words about my gallery, or on its meeting, confirming the validity of such interest.
 
I would, for example, first inquired about the price. And if it does not suit me, in principle, would come on the throat of his own curiosity about pictures and honestly would have written: "Thank you, this is unfortunately not for me. But if the thing can be purchased for about half of your price let me know, please, willing to consider ... ".
If the buyer the seller is not something glyanete, he also answered softly: "Unfortunately, the thing is already reserved, is negotiating with a serious buyer and they end up, at his request ..."

It is clear that to enter the "black list" of trying to sell falshakov, which I wrote here - not the most effective measure. Crooks and swindlers of the fact that with different nicknames and IP go to the forum. But, why not introduce a "rating system" members of the forum, both sellers and buyers of other participants? Of course, there will be a settling of accounts, but that and the fact that this "information" will be there, and benefit from this, I'm sure it will be much more ...

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от AlexSpb; 2172601"

I would , for example, first inquired about the price. And if it does not suit me , in principle ,

As you can identify without looking at the picture itself ?
Would you rather than a male 30 - 50 $ on that picture , " such and such " year " of a certain " size can tell without looking at the thing? And what answer should be of interest to you ? 15 t $?
Well, let's say, then you are asking to send , receive ( in the mail get through or not, he is not the format ), see for example , and not that. And so many gestures instead of seeing on the forum right ?

[AlexSpb]

Well, that's how I wrote my personal approach to the forum I can argue with someone sharply , but in real cases I try to be delicate .
After all , expensive purchases , I think everyone will agree , is rarely committed by one " gesture ."
To far to walk for an example : on the topic of Sudeikina mistress called me a rough price for which is 95%I do not buy this thing , that is , at the very approximate plug ( MY PERSONAL ) , this price does not fit . However, such an order prices in the database exists and , judging by the competent description, the hostess said that " a very beautiful thing " , it can be trusted. So , you can find a buyer for the money. Just finished it on the people I have not, but look for them , this will be the same " air commerce ", ie strange things that I , in principle - not typical .

P.S. I hope you will agree that this is not the most fundamental question for all of this discussion.