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vyadem · 04.02.2011, 13:39

Dear forum!

Voice, please have an opinion on this paper.

Size 50h90.

Subframe is clearly not native.

Toinen · 04.02.2011, 14:07

Krpiya with paintings by Pompeo Batoni The Penitent Mary Magdalene. "

vyadem · 04.02.2011, 14:38

Toinen, thanks!
Even on the forums, have already had similar themes.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=80671
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=72481
Then another question.
It has no hint of craquelure. Canvas is clearly old. Tried otschepnut piece paint around the edges, but a feeling that stuck.
Could this be some kind of printing?
And about the time the copy?

Toinen · 04.02.2011, 14:54

The print did not seem to seem to see Pap. But there was a technique called at home "wreath" when he prescribed the artist printed image. Vzmite magnifying glass and inspect the canvas there are any omissions of paint.
The plot is very popular, I still somewhere there are two or three similar copies. By the time, I think, the late XIX - XX centuries.

vyadem · 04.02.2011, 15:03

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Сообщение от "Toinen

Vzmite magnifying glass and inspect the canvas there are any omissions of paint.

That is, should be visible foundation of the canvas?

And what is the reason for these omissions?

Toinen · 04.02.2011, 15:27

vyadem, cause release - inattention, carelessness artist haste.
And in the Pass will not see the canvas, and a fragment of the printed image (raster).

vyadem · 04.02.2011, 15:31

Toinen, is now understood.
Thank you!

Toinen · 04.02.2011, 15:39

Always glad to help!

vyadem · 04.02.2011, 15:47

Toinen, even forgot to ask.
When born, this "wreath" and was common?
Correctly understood the process: drawing deposited hard copy on paper and Jell on canvas?
Or directly applied to the canvas?

Toinen · 04.02.2011, 15:53

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image printing method was applied to paper and Jell on canvas?

That's right!
The second half of the XIX century.

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04.02.2011, 14:07	Язык оригинала: Русский #2
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04.02.2011, 15:27	Язык оригинала: Русский #6
Toinen Гуру Регистрация: 21.10.2009 Сообщений: 2,798 Спасибо: 3,657 Поблагодарили 4,891 раз(а) в 2,057 сообщениях Репутация: 9050	vyadem, cause release - inattention, carelessness artist haste. And in the Pass will not see the canvas, and a fragment of the printed image (raster). Миниатюры

04.02.2011, 14:38	Язык оригинала: Русский #3
vyadem Гуру Регистрация: 11.11.2008 Сообщений: 1,897 Спасибо: 2,905 Поблагодарили 2,365 раз(а) в 550 сообщениях Репутация: 4046	Toinen, thanks! Even on the forums, have already had similar themes. http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=80671 http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=72481 Then another question. It has no hint of craquelure. Canvas is clearly old. Tried otschepnut piece paint around the edges, but a feeling that stuck. Could this be some kind of printing? And about the time the copy?

04.02.2011, 14:54	Язык оригинала: Русский #4
Toinen Гуру Регистрация: 21.10.2009 Сообщений: 2,798 Спасибо: 3,657 Поблагодарили 4,891 раз(а) в 2,057 сообщениях Репутация: 9050	The print did not seem to seem to see Pap. But there was a technique called at home "wreath" when he prescribed the artist printed image. Vzmite magnifying glass and inspect the canvas there are any omissions of paint. The plot is very popular, I still somewhere there are two or three similar copies. By the time, I think, the late XIX - XX centuries.

04.02.2011, 15:31	Язык оригинала: Русский #7
vyadem Гуру Регистрация: 11.11.2008 Сообщений: 1,897 Спасибо: 2,905 Поблагодарили 2,365 раз(а) в 550 сообщениях Репутация: 4046	Toinen, is now understood. Thank you!

04.02.2011, 15:39	Язык оригинала: Русский #8
Toinen Гуру Регистрация: 21.10.2009 Сообщений: 2,798 Спасибо: 3,657 Поблагодарили 4,891 раз(а) в 2,057 сообщениях Репутация: 9050	Always glad to help!

04.02.2011, 15:47	Язык оригинала: Русский #9
vyadem Гуру Регистрация: 11.11.2008 Сообщений: 1,897 Спасибо: 2,905 Поблагодарили 2,365 раз(а) в 550 сообщениях Репутация: 4046	Toinen, even forgot to ask. When born, this "wreath" and was common? Correctly understood the process: drawing deposited hard copy on paper and Jell on canvas? Or directly applied to the canvas?