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Язык оригинала: Русский #21 |
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Fed: " It's not for the artists, their business how much to sell their goods. This technique , for buyers to lose money is not - no picture of divorce or when assessing the possibility of selling in the future. "
Fed, today the artist's brother buys a room uhar , and tomorrow will buy Arab sheikh , not one job ...- well, and how your method is not zabuksuet ? Option 2: Today is the author of Russian fashionable glamorous get-together , everyone knows, money vbuhivayut , but after 100 years is not the author is not all that glamorous get-together no one can remember ... and is just a picture of secondary vocational level , what every graduate Hudgraf namalyuet - again " method of " fail. All the same, your mathematical work can really only work today and just for you lichno.Ne need to re-evaluate and try to implement. We do not pay for the painting , paying for the reputation of the artist. |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #22 | |
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Seriy, a died in 23 years! And if you were denegi, it can be and would not have died ... (Life is harsh) ... |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #23 |
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Again, this talk - about anything, and fantasy is about the sheikh and about party.
Specifically, - 1.Nomer Rating 2.Vozmozhna a correction 3.Smotrim recommendation for how much it is expedient to buy. If you sell more significant: Asking yourself the question , but why should I be around such and such a dime a dozen . If you are selling cheaper ( and much cheaper it is very often ) - solve - it 's a good buy . And if you talk on general topics, then why do weird version of a rare crowd. How to determine the real cost of a decent picture in the gallery of the artist whose work is like ? One thousand. Or to digest the story of a painter, his works are sold by 4m. And if you order over 3 tons , then you're lucky. But really he is rated 2 t. That offer 2 t agree, well , no ... Moreover , this also applies to people who do not read the forum for days . They should just make a decision. |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #24 | ||
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I do not sell , for example (so far) , it makes no sense ... Posted 11 minutes Цитата:
Artists have in fact more than the audience (and gallerists boolshe than buyers ) Why not sit down in his sleigh ? Art is a luxury item , and among the manure ( art) such gems flashed , would EYES ( which see , and not just watching ) Well, not a " Pozdnyak meta" it does not teach ! Последний раз редактировалось NATA NOVA; 19.12.2011 в 12:31. Причина: Добавлено сообщение |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #25 | |
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Water is everything. That is say, I have for sale are two things the same size of one and the same author. Both good and obviously important , but one I like more than the other and I just do not want to sell it and put it on the heights beyond price. Then there is " chudik " to look like my taste and soaring thing for money , I buy , and the second is also a good and meaningful, but three times cheaper , it does not take. And how then is this artist ? |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #26 |
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There are painters who create beautiful interiors, from an artistic point of view, more valuable than almost all the paintings in a conventional gallery. In this case it does not come to Galway to say that " a good idea to support them ," and pay 2 times more .
Although the talk that they put health at work , and this little appreciated , they also love . But it never occurs to equate their work with Gaudi, or even mention him in vain . This is me about Malevich, Van Gogh , etc. What they are relevant to the discussion . You sell them ? Especially because auctions remembered as an estimate of fair market value . Once again - if chudik wants to overpay , and do not use the method , let overpays and the risk of losing money. No one makes , and advises , do not have to be a Crank , endure a month and buy cheaper, but if not will it , buy another of the same " miracle ", but for real value. |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #27 |
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Here are quotes from the techniques:
" Before turning to the substantive part of our study, it should be stated : to date, neither art history nor mathematics, nor any other scientific discipline does not have a scientifically sound and accurate time-tested methods of evaluating works of art. " " As a result, evaluation of works of art is merely indicative . " From this : http://rating.artunion.ru/article09.htm The buyer pays for the THING! And no matter its exact dimensions. According to your methods can only assess the pies . Yesterday there were large but five ... Apparently you can not distinguish between words and work product . |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #28 |
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Any product in terms of political economy has a "use value"
(Conditionally - "utility") and "Cost" (conditionally - "Work"). According to political economy (within the meaning of my institute teacher) - Painting is a luxury and not a commodity in the truest sense (because of its "use value" defies comparisons). Accordingly, all calculations the value of "utility" of the picture are meaningless. Initial calculations can be made only for the "cost" picture. And in "cost" will include all costs for the artist zhist, labor, and drunkenness. Estimate for themselves how to spend the artist has to "life" and to work in a month (4-6 canvases, paint tubes 15-20, 3-4 "studio", a ton of paper and a decent frame) and divide by 2. (Assume that it is two pictures are a good medium the result of sales per month). Get the minimum value of the picture. This is no exhibition, workshop, catalogs and travel for impressions. Another thing, the picture of the past few auctions. This is the subject of investing. Ay, where are the Pavel? Последний раз редактировалось Сергей Дородный; 19.12.2011 в 18:18. |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #29 |
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Sergey burly, so I read a biography of the Vasiliev some years he wrote two paintings, sketches of the rest of what two sales a month?
It cited figures from the American Expressionists, the first series , he has sold over 5%of work life . If we assume that the two paintings - this is 5%, then a month to write 40 papers ready . It could only Van Gogh and then only briefly. So to make ends meet do not converge. Hence the difference is the required quality and at an actual beginner and intermediate artists - if they will create work for the full program , with careful preparation , with careful implementation , it will cost absolutely irrelevant category of the artist and no one at this price it will not buy . Therefore, written work of a quality that is more or less corresponds to the actual selling price .
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Язык оригинала: Русский #30 | |
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In F. Vasiliev TG 39 zhtvopisnyh work. Yes Russ - 27 things. This is despite the fact that the artist and 24 years did not survive 5 months, ie, died at the age of 23.5 years. |
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